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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

24 May 2018

Agenda

Attendees

Present
addison, David, r12a, JcK, Katy, Fuqiao
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


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Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-709?

<trackbot> action-709 -- Addison Phillips to Announce charmod to ietf@ (jck to post to other lists) -- due 2018-05-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/709

close action-709

<trackbot> Closed action-709.

action-713?

<trackbot> action-713 -- Addison Phillips to Make html53 review homework for next telecon -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/713

close action-713

<trackbot> Closed action-713.

action-714?

<trackbot> action-714 -- Richard Ishida to Check spacing for french examples in q element article (for non-breaking) -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/714

close action-714

<trackbot> Closed action-714.

action-715?

<trackbot> action-715 -- Richard Ishida to Add info to q element article about quoted text that should looks like original -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/715

close action-715

<trackbot> Closed action-715.

Info Share

Katy: info about slack talk?

<scribe> ... new group for indic font design, open invite to anyone interested in indic typography

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: just getting started

richard: link was mainly about typefaces?

katy: send an invite and you can jump on to look?

richard: sure
... if only about typefaces, not so interesting
... but if about justification and such, might be useful

katy: unicode has offered a channel on CLDR and ICU
... merging of those groups
... to try to get non-profit status on that group

richard: while I was in berlin I spoke to florian
... and murata-san
... and Kato-san from Kodansha. consensus was to get JLREQ group functioning again
... idea is to setup like SEA group
... accommodate a network of experts
... group contributors identified
... may do addenda updates to JLREQ
... or changes
... one new doc we said we'd publish--need to check status
... put together content model doc for ruby
... maybe take on board
... advanced publishing lab make docs and then publishing via us
... nice to get going again
... also talking to Daniel about Ethiopic
... arabic has not had a meeting recently
... starting SEA, some discussion going on
... indic layout work and IIP is starting to roll forward slowly
... 5 preliminary gap analysis docs
... working on more detail
... HTML discussion about ruby
...

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/1424

richard: chaals latest proposal is a warning about layout not happening
... recommend reading

<scribe> ACTION: addison: add html issue 1424 to homework for next week

<trackbot> Created ACTION-718 - Add html issue 1424 to homework for next week [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-31].

Radar

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

addison: gamepad request

richard: there is a timestamp, but just a number of ms

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/569

<scribe> ACTION: addison: respond to gamepad that we reviewed with no issues

<trackbot> Created ACTION-719 - Respond to gamepad that we reviewed with no issues [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-31].

richard: include self-review suggestion in your note

<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to html and tell them we're not quite done with the review of 5.3

<trackbot> Created ACTION-720 - Write to html and tell them we're not quite done with the review of 5.3 [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-31].

HTML 5.3 review

richard: discussion about web components
... long thread about shadow dom and dir/css-direction

<r12a> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/3699

richard: doing a poor job of reviewing that part :-) don't have much more to say about it
... possibly koji could help?

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/1273/

richard: you have to use UTF-8 only is what the spec says
... for meta, http headers, etc.
... looking for get-out for get-out for pages you already have
... more time to track down
... in past we tracked w3c and hoped whatwg would track
... time here to interface with whatwg version, at least as an equal?

jck: who referees?

addison: how do we interface?

richard: put in labels and got ability to put labels on whatwg repo
... includes notifying clreq and jlreq as well as i18n-track and i18n-comment

addison: no formal mechanism? depends on us seeing things?

richard: expect things to be different from now on, more listening to community
... encouraging to reach out

addison: w3c has gates that we're hooked up to
... have to see all conversations

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ahtml+label%3Apending

<r12a> Mandate UTF-8

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/1273/

<r12a> Allow fully internationalised email addresses

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/1163

addison: latter at our behest I believe

richard: yes
... at least one pending item was raised as what-wg issue
... could be pending because stuck a label there

Charmod-Norm

https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/

https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/issues

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/issues/168

addison: provide some graphics for font-related examples

richard: put webfont on top of fallback

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/javanese/

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/khmer/

य ू न ि क ो ड

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/blog/201408.html#20150106

<scribe> ACTION: katy: look into font subsetting for charmod-norm

<trackbot> Created ACTION-721 - Look into font subsetting for charmod-norm [on Katy Mawhood - due 2018-05-31].

<r12a> The Combining Character Conundrum

AOB?

<koji> addison/r12a: yeah, I'm trying to understand the issue, will consult here if any changes are needed

<r12a> thanks, koji

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: add html issue 1424 to homework for next week
[NEW] ACTION: addison: respond to gamepad that we reviewed with no issues
[NEW] ACTION: addison: write to html and tell them we're not quite done with the review of 5.3
[NEW] ACTION: katy: look into font subsetting for charmod-norm
 

Summary of Resolutions

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