<mck> rrsagent make log world
<scribe> scribe: AnnAbbott
<scribe> scribe: AnnAbbott
<mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/February-5%2C-2018-Meeting
<jemma> list attendees
mck: 2 pull requests exist that
need to be tested
... stability and reliability of examples is critical
jg: example from Carolyn changed what happens on hover
mck: Carolyn's is on menubar 2,
Jon's is on both 1 and 2
... Jon's has 147 formatting errors so cannot be merged at this
time
<mck> link to Carolyn's proposal:
<mck> https://rawgit.com/carmacleod/aria-practices/issue408/examples/menubar/menubar-2/menubar-2.html
mck: suppose to change only mouse
behaviours
... test with both mouse and kbd
... if they look good, merge, then merge Jon's
<Siri> When you assign that issue to me in github, can you please forward that Nsfsiri2014@gmail.com?
mck: wouldn't changes to menubar2
also apply to menubar1?
... will send separate email to Siri
... GitHub profile is different from w3c profile, including
email address
<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/583
Evan: issue is that fix has to touch elements outside dialog
mck; assuming it isn't sufficient to apply to layer(s) behind dialog
Evan: must be added to all DOM siblings
<jemma> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select
Evan: if using native dialog element, works as expected
<jemma> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select#Browser_compatibility
<evan> https://caniuse.com/#feat=dialog
mck: works as expected except in
IE11
... can add 'won't fix' label for this issue
... Thanks, Evan, for time spent on issue
<mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/402
discussion with a review of Issue 402: Menu Button Examples: Change focus indicator to use outline.
mck: advantages/disadvantages of outline vs border
Jemma: just a styling issue?
jg: uses transparent border, then
when visual focus, add color
... browser handling with outline is different
... border handling is more consistent
Jemma: agrees
mck: must use outline: none to get rid of default
Evan: uses box shadows instead
jn: would be good to show
different examples
... thinks anyone who finds an problem should enter issue
jg: real question is what constitute good kbd focus?
Jemma: agrees as it gives developers more flexibility
Evan: agrees
... designers usually want focus to be subtle
Jemma: primary focus is different than secondary, etc
mck: requirement seems subjective
<jemma> it is more about designer's point of view for focus
mck: probably multiple good ways to achieve and probably should have a guidance section
jg: will take a stab at it
No meeting on Feb 19 due to US Holiday
No meeting on March 19 due to CSUN
Matt out on Mar 26; should the TF meet?
Mar 26 TBD depending on JN availability
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