Date: 2017-12-01
See also the Agenda and the IRC Log
Present: Cristina Mussinelli, Rick Johnson, Avneesh Singh, Bill Kasdorf, Luc Audrain, Ivan Herman, Tzviya Siegman, Paul Belfanti, Liisa McCloy-Kelley, Graham Bell, Michael Baker, Garth Conboy, Jun-ichi Yoshii, Leslie Hulse, Dave Cramer
Regrets:
Guests:
Chair: Cristina Mussinelli
Scribe(s): Luc Audrain
Paul Belfanti: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jpw0KA9StAnWZAaIMqnITmdSOchIZeQIvphX5AmAulg/edit
Cristina Mussinelli: google doc completed with Avneesh and George proposal of activities
… looking at the doc
Avneesh Singh: briefing
… describe the activities in the google doc
… 6 main activity goals
… for starting points to compare with charter
Paul Belfanti: Proposed Agenda for BGSC Call on 12/1: - Discuss the role of the SC vs. the roles of Group Chairs - Determine whether we should continue with the SC for another year and what size of group makes sense - Discuss whether we can bring our “focus” to the key areas that were identified in the last call (or whether these aren’t “right” or complete): o Communicating the needs of the industry to the W3C o Communication[CUT]
Bill Kasdorf: I didn’t get the agenda
Cristina Mussinelli: Tzviya agenda for all groups
Cristina Mussinelli: discussion on the document for the goal we want to achieve
Bill Kasdorf: +1 to Liisa
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: role of the SC, for another year? first
Ivan Herman: concerned going down into the activities, because confused on the role of this group
… we need some order around us
Tzviya Siegman: +1000 to Ivan
Bill Kasdorf: how do we function is first
Paul Belfanti: defining the role of this group, the list of activities has to be guided
Garth Conboy: consider the SC as the IDPF board, and the BG as the IDPF members
… real W3C supports, chairs of the SC working more closely with Bill
… key to get Bill back to the kind of job he did for IDPF
… executive director type person to be Bill, soon
Rick Johnson: sorry to have been gone
… Do we have reasons for this group working differently from other W3C groups?
Ivan Herman: +1 RickJ
Rick Johnson: if yes, why? Looking at having a BG with tasks and responsible parties for these tasks to coordinate
Bill Kasdorf: +1 to Rick
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: only reason came to trying to build a good community in the W3C for people without skill and money to contribute as usually in W3C
… give people interested in the BG value
Tzviya Siegman: agree with both. The BG more involved in the W3C
… what is missing is who is in charge
… who chairs and make the decision to where to go forward
… today make decision about that goal and forward
Bill Kasdorf: also agree with both, but connect to the election of the SC
… maybe a role(?) base more than an election based
… natural creation of leadership, BillM as leader, prioritization of activities
… organize the leadership
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: current chairs of the different group in a call to share concerns
… and another community to balance
… on top the chairs plus some more
Ivan Herman: we do need a very small group 2 or 3 co-chairs plus BillM for practical things and high level drive
… as it works for the WG
Bill Kasdorf: +1 to what Ivan just said
Ivan Herman: we should add that core to lead this
Cristina Mussinelli: looking as the IDPF and other org, easy way without real structure
… coordination inside a small group
… today to many call and we don’t the goal
… agree with Ivan, but what is the role of other member of the SC?
… what about the agreement signed with W3C?
Bill Kasdorf: I think the size of the steering committee should be dependent on who leads various activities
Garth Conboy: now SC elected
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: +1 to putting together a slate of proposed
Garth Conboy: agree with Liisa proposal
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: +1001 to Bill and staff support to drive
Ivan Herman: +1 to Avneesh
Avneesh Singh: TF structure as structure of the SC?
Ivan Herman: +1, strong management, leader of the TF, others co-chairs
… what election would bring?
Bill Kasdorf: +1 to Ivan: leadership should be based on people who want to be active, not election
Ivan Herman: with regular calls
… and the group would have their calls scheduled on their own
Garth Conboy: election is established by the merger
Ivan Herman: for life?
Garth Conboy: for 2 years, need BillM input on that
Cristina Mussinelli: right, but how can we choose those people?
Ivan Herman: for the TF?
Bill Kasdorf: BG growing but work to be done in TF, with report to the whole group
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: For Garth, BillM agreement for election, but until February
… some time before volunteer for TF leadership model
Ivan Herman: volunteer for SC should volunteer for a TF
BiilK: people should take some particular activity
Cristina Mussinelli: Elections, how many people
… how to choose the chairs?
Garth Conboy: SC with people doing active things
Ivan Herman: we’ve absolute freedom for the size of the SC
Cristina Mussinelli: do we agree SC will remain with fewer number, with people managing TF, and ask BillM for any detail
… do we agree with that?
Ivan Herman: back to the list, should be disclose to the group and the election mechanism
… asking for volunteers of certain posts
… that list should be the guiding
… some people volunteer to co-chair
Tzviya Siegman: one thing: a decision on who chairs this group?
Cristina Mussinelli: check the agreements and speak to BillM about new elections
Garth Conboy: q
Dave Cramer: having a smaller SC to make progress with fewer calls
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: I volunteer to take a bigger role, but wait for BillM back
Bill Kasdorf: I second the nomination of Liisa to be our fearless leader
Luc Audrain: +1
Ivan Herman: in this period it means chairing both SC and BG
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: +1 to Tzviya’s comment- I can’t do it alone
Paul Belfanti: ok to continue to support plans but with more clarity on all roles
Garth Conboy: BillM back next week, Paul, Cristina, Liisa, better understanding with him
Cristina Mussinelli: +1 garth
Garth Conboy: that group talk together
Ivan Herman: first is who will contact BillM?
Garth Conboy: Liisa?
Liisa McCloy-Kelley: next week
Cristina Mussinelli: I can do it
Garth Conboy: with help from Paul and Cristina
Ivan Herman: happy to be around if needed
Garth Conboy: EPUB 3.0.2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r2RbLipc5VY3vUp_iuPak3oaNxI5BF9gJ5s-98qsmEY/edit?ts=5a1f2bbd#heading=h.4ypgd8dyl2b
Garth Conboy: Work for an EPUB3.0.2 proposal
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