IRC log of dnt on 2017-09-25
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- Meeting: Tracking Protection Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 25 September 2017
- 16:07:34 [wileys]
- One rather significant request - apologies for the late nature of the request...
- 16:08:08 [wileys]
- Is it too late to get a new element added to the UGE submission?
- 16:08:59 [fielding]
- wileys, probably, since that would restart the review
- 16:09:02 [wileys]
- In discussion at the EU ad industry level it was determined a “purpose” dimension of the UGE is missing and will be required for DNT to be a vialble solution in the EU
- 16:09:43 [fielding]
- wileys, I would just use one of the text fields
- 16:09:56 [wileys]
- Okay - not sure what to do at this point then as the EU ad industry is stating DNT is DOA unless this addition is made. How should I approach this?
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- 16:13:35 [fielding]
- [we are discussing this on the phone with Shane, but no scribe]
- 16:15:08 [fielding]
- q+
- 16:15:29 [schunter]
- ack fie
- 16:15:32 [wileys]
- Sure - can raise the issue in CR
- 16:15:44 [wileys]
- Where should I document this?
- 16:17:16 [wileys]
- How would one domain capture consent for two different practices?
- 16:19:51 [wileys]
- Option 1: Use different sub-domains for each purpose
- 16:20:30 [wileys]
- Option 2: Have the consent manager pass the inforrmation in the request to the 3rd party site (store in a cookie?)
- 16:21:19 [wileys]
- Honestly don’t believe either of these will be accepted by industry and they’ll continue to invest in other technical solutions than DNT
- 16:22:58 [fielding]
- I think it is worth exploring as an issue, but given the lack of implementations makes the UGE unusable right now, this is not worth pushing right now.
- 16:24:46 [dsinger]
- q+
- 16:25:33 [fielding]
- BTW, for Option 2, I meant pass it in the URL. If you can set a cookie for the third party, this is already solved.
- 16:25:58 [wileys]
- Roy, if we’re going to still need to use cookies then it is easier to just deal with cookies from the start
- 16:26:21 [fielding]
- I agree, if we can.
- 16:26:45 [wileys]
- True - referencing iOS11 Webkit
- 16:27:02 [fielding]
- I would have preferred to do the entire UGE framefork using parameters and cookies just to get out of this chicken-and-egg problem.
- 16:28:53 [dsinger]
- q?
- 16:30:50 [wileys]
- I’ll do my best to both document the issue and propose several solutions from an industry POV
- 16:30:57 [wileys]
- I have my marching orders :-)
- 16:31:28 [wileys]
- +q
- 16:31:31 [fielding]
- Issues go https://github.com/w3c/dnt/issues
- 16:31:32 [dsinger]
- q-
- 16:35:24 [wileys]
- Sorry for the possible delay :-)
- 16:35:46 [wileys]
- AGREED!
- 16:37:10 [fielding]
- Did we make a formal publish to CR decision?
- 16:41:01 [schunter]
- Consensus: Current draft will be published as revised CR.
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- present+
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- present+ Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger
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- zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been fielding, Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger
- 16:43:26 [Bert]
- present+ Jason Novak, Brendan, Alan Toner
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- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been fielding, Shane, Matthias, Bert, dsinger, Jason, Novak, Brendan, Alan, Toner
- 17:20:59 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/25-dnt-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
- 17:21:00 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items