W3C

SV_MEETING_TITLE

01 Sep 2017

Attendees

Present
janina, Judy, George, Joanmarie_Diggs, Kathy, Katie_Haritos-Shea, MichaelC, lisa, Kim
Regrets
Chair
Judy
Scribe
MichaelC, Judy

Contents


<George> George is #1 on the dial in list.

<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC

drop item 1

EOWG charter approved, reminder of invitation to join

Next meeting

13 September 2017

EOWG charter approved, reminder of invitation to join (for reals this time)

jb: it´s out

y´all got invites to join?

khs: yes

<Judy> s/y'all got invites/an invitation was sent out over wai ig/

Personalization TF, joining, initial focus

mc: a couple joins, invites gone out, facilitators meeting but vacations slowing the start

<AWK> +AWK

khs: haven´t seen on wai-ig yet

but understand something will appear

Coordination updates from Chaals

jb: JS, MC, did you see CN email?

and is it same as LW stuff?

js: post to WAI-CC about push API?

for that, Charles and Léonie joined APA to discuss today

we didn´t have agreement about whether accessibility section should be in spec

but did agree that we won´t push the comment further

but that it will be noted in the disposition of comments that the commenter was not satisfied with the response

we also discussed how to effectively file comment on (non-W3C) Web Notifications spec

CN and LW advised we don´t need to include sample code as we had been planning, so should be ready to file soon

<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2017Aug/0025.html

js: ^ is draft APA comment on Web Notifications

CN mentioned another spec, but it´s not FPWD yet, we agreed we´ll pick it up when FPWD happens

jb: Léonie is still in-person liaison to APA?

js: yes

jb: and Charles sends APA stuff

and passes on to WAI CC

is that redundant or helpful?

js: the Notifications stuff is of wider interest

relates to payments for instance

<Judy> [JB hears that this is helpful, especially where the relevance may go beyond APA specifically]

underneath this, we need to develop a more consistent approach to getting in accessibility impact sections in specs

we feel like second class citizens, security / privacy has this standard in the transition procedures now, but we don´t

we did decide not to push further on that for Push

but still need to follow up on an open request to have one for Payments

khs: some a11y stuff has been removed from Payments stuff

we need to chase up

jb: I´ve heard of a few situations that accessibility impact sections have been proposed yet rejected

3 or so in the past year, is that accurate?

<Ryladog> No Accessibility mention in the NEW Commerce IG Charter

re payments, I need clear documentation of what was removed

khs: the new Payments group is the Commerce IG

no longer has a11y liaison

jb: but I really need the info on what´s removed

khs: I´ll try

<Judy> scribe: Judy

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2017/03/commerce-charter.html

mc: I found a draft commerce charter here, saying that it is under review by w3c membership
... there was a message sent in july to membership

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2014/04/payments/webpayments_charter.html

mc: comparing the (draft?) commerce charter to the web payments interest group, it is true that accessibility liaisons have been removed. Had I seen it earlier i would have flagged that. But actually, all liaisons were removed.

KHS: well but all mentions of accessibility were also removed. All.

MC: That seems to be the case, yes. I don't see any mention of accessibility.
... but review just closed.

JB: We need to get this fixed if as it appears several internal horizontal review steps were missed. Will pursue through w3m.

<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC

jb: please send at least a pointer to a version of the spec that had a11y stuff, and a version where it´s gone
... returning to a11y impact statements

<Judy> [jb hears push api, and payments, turned down; but OTOH, css requesting & proposing one]

<Judy> [js will pursue one on payments]

js, mc: would have to look for others rejected, a few accepted

jb: back to topic, sounds like Charles´ updates helpful especially where the relevance potentially goes beyond APA specifically

Milestones, publications, announcements check

awk: WCAG published 16 Aug

22 Aug was deadline for new SC

2 from that deadline are still in open CfC

but should wrap up soon

we may publish the September version earlier than planned (which was 19 sept)

so reviewers can get a stable version asap to review

that would be the last WD prior to TPAC

during that time we´ll aggregate feedback, work on Understanding and Techniques (with EO)

mc: Supplemental guidance

and ¨rationalizing¨ the SC with each other

jb: when do you expect to know when you´ll be figuring out when and what to plan testing for, for CR?

advance planning, helpers?

awk: we know we need to work on that, it´s fallen behind the issue du jour

jb: happy to brainstorm with you

Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG?

jb: beyond above, anything specific?

khs: I´ll have limited availability to help over the next few month

Other business?

gk: Publishing BG discussing moving EPub and EPub a11y specs into ISO

khs: that is, getting ISO stamps on them, not moving the work, right?

gk: yes

jb: afaik that´s proceeding as planned

gk: <drily> it´s complicated

jb: I worked on the WCAG 2.0 ISO endorsement

so can help

gk: as international standard, or technical specification?

khs: TS

<Judy> https://www.iso.org/standard/58625.html

<George> https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/wiki/ISO-Standardization-Discussion

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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