<Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2017.08.14
<Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/07-dxwg-minutes
Motion: to approve minutes from last week https://www.w3.org/2017/08/07-dxwg-minutes
<roba> +1
<Caroline> +1
<Caroline> APPROVE: minutes from last week https://www.w3.org/2017/08/07-dxwg-minutes
<annette_g> +1
NOTUC?
Resolved: minutes of last meeting https://www.w3.org/2017/08/07-dxwg-minutes
@kar
kcoyle: progress to deliverables
Caroline: implementation report - after we have all document outputs, need to meet W3C criteria
… to prove adoption in 2 places
… 1. vocabulary update, 2. Content negotiation, 3. profiles
… UCR editors will enumerate requirements, which must be clear in advance of production of output documents
roba: has been working trhough requirements, de-duplicating
… cross-referencing to come
… deep editorial work from ixchel
… some contributions from others viw pull-requests
… invitations sought from anyone else who is interested
Ixchel: mostly working on editing how reqs are described
Jaroslav_Pullmann: Did you find a methdology how to update and add new input? esp. Wiki vs GitHub
… (alejandra provided a GitHub template for new issues)
<alejandra> note that the template is the same template as before
kcoyle: q+
<alejandra> only that it is now provided in the github issues
kcoyle: new UCs use GitHub, only editors accept changes to document
<Caroline> SimonCox: I submited an use case on the wiki and I sent an annoucement on the as a issue
<Caroline> ... I added I new issue under the old method
<Caroline> s/Github/Github
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/17
<Caroline> ... issue 17 on Github is about that
<Caroline> roba: it is annouced to me and I am happy to work on it
roba: had noticed this - not processed yet - hadn't been discussed and adopted by group
roba: what is expectation about process? shoudl they need discussing before adding to UCR document?
alejandra: will poll group for meetings of DCAT editors - likely September
… has started tabulation of known Application Profiles
roba: spreadsheet only relates to AP activity so far? will be updated to other requirements in due course
alejandra: michael from Fraunhofer has done analysis, will be incorporated in due course
… spreadsheet was just exercise to list elements in profiles
Jaroslav_Pullmann: has spoken with michael about comparison of profiles, also usage (in Europe)
… analysis of usage in repositories, will provide us with relevant input, including 'national extensions'
kcoyle: ask that links from the wiki be added to these documents
<alejandra> I already listed the spreadsheet in the wiki
Action: alejandra to add link to spreadsheet from wiki
<trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Add link to spreadsheet from wiki [on Alejandra Gonzalez Beltran - due 2017-08-21].
alejandra already done
close ACTION-33
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-33.
<alejandra> This is where the link to the spreadsheet and list of existing application profiles is: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Guidance_on_publishing_application_profiles_of_vocabularies
open actions https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
<Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/5
<Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#ID46
<Caroline> SimonCox: what is the target of those requirements?
<Caroline> ... particularly the first one
<Caroline> ... are you suggesting that one of the outuputs would be to find users directions?
<Caroline> kcoyle: this is documentation
<Caroline> SimonCox: defining a user experience I am not confortable that is in the scope
<Caroline> kcoyle: this is not the user eperience. This is where the vocabulary is defined
<Caroline> ... is providing that information along the vocabulary
<Caroline> SimonCox: we need to make sure it is not fully open ended
<roba> i have tried to deal with these issues in requirements consolidation
<Caroline> ... the way it is written now it feels open ended
<Caroline> ... the 2nd and 3rd requirements it is good
<Caroline> ... user experience I wouls suggest it is out of scope
roba: has treated this as a general requirement for specifying a profile
… (kind of recursive)
<alejandra> for vocabularies, there is a specific use case: ID41
roba: profiles must include a defined set of documentation/annotation
… multiple use-cases have a common set of requirements
… ID46 draws out this common requirement from multiple uc's
mbruemmer: example - use SHACL to assist with input forms
Jaroslav_Pullmann: lost of requirements overlap; ID46 is editor-oriented, hints on which sort of input is expected
… ID46 synthesizes requirements from multiple uc's
annette_g: ID46 is good UC - request specific profile and use its description to generate an interface
alejandra: important to help UI development, but unclear what goes where
… is this within an applicatoin-profile definition, e.g. definition of terms belongs in a vocabulary, not an application profile
roba: back to process, is ID46 a good UC? can discuss detail later when assessing all the consoldiated requirements
proposed: accept ID46
<kcoyle> +1
<mbruemmer> +1
<Thomas> +1
<roba> +1
+1
<LarsG> +1
<Caroline> +1
<newton> +1
<annette_g> +1
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
<dsr> +1
<alejandra> -1
alejandra: important that we are clear that intention of problem statement is that AP 'has human readable definitions'
roba: implementation choices - 'definitions are available' - mechanisms may vary
<alejandra> how does it differ from https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Vocabulary_constraints_.5BID41.5D
roba: may be in profile, or in vocabulary (for example)
kcoyle: ID46 differs from ID41 - human-readable vs testable
… e.g dc:title can be used for a person's name
<alejandra> changing vote to +1
Resolved: UC ID46 accepted
NB UC is in scope, requirements to be clarified later (in all cases!)
Resolved:
Resolved: accept ID46
Caroline: no more time to discuss UCs
… please raise UCs on mailing list to move discussion forward ahead of next meeting
thanks all for joining call
<Caroline> bye!
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> bye
<LarsG> bye
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