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14:22:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:22:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
14:22:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:22:55 <trackbot> Date: 10 August 2017
14:22:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:23:41 <AllanJ_> chair: Jim
14:23:52 <AllanJ_> regrets: JohnR
14:23:57 <AllanJ_> Partial  Meeting Popup on the AG call
14:24:11 <AllanJ_> Agenda+ Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)
14:25:48 <AllanJ_> zakim, clear agenda
14:25:48 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:25:54 <AllanJ_> Agenda+ Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)
14:25:58 <AllanJ_> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
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14:58:22 <shawn> present+
14:58:28 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:58:28 <Zakim> Present: Shawn, Jim, Erich, Scott, John, steverep, allanj, JohnRochford
14:58:37 <shawn> Present: Jim, Shawn, Scott, Laura
14:59:49 <laura> present+ Laura
15:00:10 <scott> having trouble getting on the conference give me a moment
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15:02:23 <laura> Scribe: Laura
15:06:06 <shawn> Participation info: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/#participation
15:06:42 <AllanJ_> zakim, open item 1
15:06:42 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)" taken up [from AllanJ_]
15:06:57 <AllanJ_> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
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15:08:00 <AllanJ_> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Final_prelockdown_set/
15:08:20 <laura> Jim: short meeting today.
15:08:34 <laura> …then we will join AG meeting.
15:09:03 <shawn> present+ Glenda
15:09:04 <laura> …lots of discussion. New wording now.
15:09:16 <laura> …please fill out the survey.
15:09:48 <laura> wording is more verbose to avoid “popup”.
15:10:25 <laura> …not call “additional content.”
15:10:58 <laura> s/not call/now called/
15:12:20 <laura> … Popup SC almost as bad as Adapting Text to get consensus on
15:12:21 <scott> survey link works
15:13:09 <laura> other item is printing
15:13:34 <laura> … prinitn will go on the next survey.
15:14:06 <laura> s/prinitn/printing/
15:15:16 <laura> …explained to chairs about adding to 100%
15:15:41 <laura> …hopefully we will get it in.
15:16:52 <laura> …need to work on understanding docs next. LVTF can help.
15:17:55 <laura> shawn: probably use Github, and normal avenues
15:19:15 <laura> Glenda: 2.1 SCs are harder than 2.0 SCs. Takes longer for people to understand.
15:20:43 <laura> …remember 5 stages of accessibility: http://simplyaccessible.com/article/five-stages-of-accessibility/
15:20:58 <Glenda> I love Featherstone’s 5 stages of accessibility grief.  Progress includes denial, anger, bargaining and depression before there is acceptance.  See http://simplyaccessible.com/article/five-stages-of-accessibility/
15:22:10 <AllanJ_>     For content that becomes visible when triggered by a user interface component receiving keyboard focus or pointer hover, the following are true, except where the visual presentation of the content is controlled by the user agent and is not modified by the author:
15:22:11 <AllanJ_>     Visible trigger
15:22:13 <AllanJ_>     Either the additional content does not obscure any essential content within the triggering user interface component, or the additional content can be closed or repositioned by the user.
15:22:14 <AllanJ_>     Hover
15:22:16 <AllanJ_>     The additional content remains visible when the pointer is moved over it, if it was triggered via pointer hover
15:22:17 <AllanJ_>     Focus
15:22:19 <AllanJ_>     The additional content remains visible while the triggering user interface component has keyboard focus, unless the user dismisses the additional content.
15:23:47 <laura> jim: @alastc’s text looks good.
15:23:47 <scott> I lke it
15:23:54 <laura> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/75#issuecomment-321582748
15:25:26 <laura> all: unanimous agreement: we all love Alastair
15:26:08 <AllanJ_> survey version... https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
15:28:35 <laura> Jim: everyone please vote.
15:29:40 <AllanJ_> Meeting adjourned 10:30 to attend AG call
15:29:46 <AllanJ_> trackbot, end meeting
15:29:46 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:29:46 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Jim, Shawn, Scott, Laura, Glenda
15:29:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:29:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/10-lvtf-minutes.html trackbot
15:29:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:29:55 <RRSAgent> I see no action items