IRC log of lvtf on 2017-08-10
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/08/10-lvtf-irc
- 14:22:52 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be
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- Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 10 August 2017
- 14:22:55 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
- 14:23:41 [AllanJ_]
- chair: Jim
- 14:23:52 [AllanJ_]
- regrets: JohnR
- 14:23:57 [AllanJ_]
- Partial Meeting Popup on the AG call
- 14:24:11 [AllanJ_]
- Agenda+ Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)
- 14:25:48 [AllanJ_]
- zakim, clear agenda
- 14:25:48 [Zakim]
- agenda cleared
- 14:25:54 [AllanJ_]
- Agenda+ Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)
- 14:25:58 [AllanJ_]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
- 14:53:44 [laura]
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- present+
- 14:58:28 [shawn]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:58:28 [Zakim]
- Present: Shawn, Jim, Erich, Scott, John, steverep, allanj, JohnRochford
- 14:58:37 [shawn]
- Present: Jim, Shawn, Scott, Laura
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- present+ Laura
- 15:00:10 [scott]
- having trouble getting on the conference give me a moment
- 15:01:39 [alastairc]
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- Scribe: Laura
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- Participation info: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/#participation
- 15:06:42 [AllanJ_]
- zakim, open item 1
- 15:06:42 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Popup Interference (MetaData on Hover)" taken up [from AllanJ_]
- 15:06:57 [AllanJ_]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
- 15:07:55 [Glenda]
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- 15:08:00 [AllanJ_]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Final_prelockdown_set/
- 15:08:20 [laura]
- Jim: short meeting today.
- 15:08:34 [laura]
- …then we will join AG meeting.
- 15:09:03 [shawn]
- present+ Glenda
- 15:09:04 [laura]
- …lots of discussion. New wording now.
- 15:09:16 [laura]
- …please fill out the survey.
- 15:09:48 [laura]
- wording is more verbose to avoid “popup”.
- 15:10:25 [laura]
- …not call “additional content.”
- 15:10:58 [laura]
- s/not call/now called/
- 15:12:20 [laura]
- … Popup SC almost as bad as Adapting Text to get consensus on
- 15:12:21 [scott]
- survey link works
- 15:13:09 [laura]
- other item is printing
- 15:13:34 [laura]
- … prinitn will go on the next survey.
- 15:14:06 [laura]
- s/prinitn/printing/
- 15:15:16 [laura]
- …explained to chairs about adding to 100%
- 15:15:41 [laura]
- …hopefully we will get it in.
- 15:16:52 [laura]
- …need to work on understanding docs next. LVTF can help.
- 15:17:55 [laura]
- shawn: probably use Github, and normal avenues
- 15:19:15 [laura]
- Glenda: 2.1 SCs are harder than 2.0 SCs. Takes longer for people to understand.
- 15:20:43 [laura]
- …remember 5 stages of accessibility: http://simplyaccessible.com/article/five-stages-of-accessibility/
- 15:20:58 [Glenda]
- I love Featherstone’s 5 stages of accessibility grief. Progress includes denial, anger, bargaining and depression before there is acceptance. See http://simplyaccessible.com/article/five-stages-of-accessibility/
- 15:22:10 [AllanJ_]
- For content that becomes visible when triggered by a user interface component receiving keyboard focus or pointer hover, the following are true, except where the visual presentation of the content is controlled by the user agent and is not modified by the author:
- 15:22:11 [AllanJ_]
- Visible trigger
- 15:22:13 [AllanJ_]
- Either the additional content does not obscure any essential content within the triggering user interface component, or the additional content can be closed or repositioned by the user.
- 15:22:14 [AllanJ_]
- Hover
- 15:22:16 [AllanJ_]
- The additional content remains visible when the pointer is moved over it, if it was triggered via pointer hover
- 15:22:17 [AllanJ_]
- Focus
- 15:22:19 [AllanJ_]
- The additional content remains visible while the triggering user interface component has keyboard focus, unless the user dismisses the additional content.
- 15:23:47 [laura]
- jim: @alastc’s text looks good.
- 15:23:47 [scott]
- I lke it
- 15:23:54 [laura]
- https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/75#issuecomment-321582748
- 15:25:26 [laura]
- all: unanimous agreement: we all love Alastair
- 15:26:08 [AllanJ_]
- survey version... https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/popup-interference_ISSUE-75/guidelines/sc/21/popup-visibility.html
- 15:28:35 [laura]
- Jim: everyone please vote.
- 15:29:40 [AllanJ_]
- Meeting adjourned 10:30 to attend AG call
- 15:29:46 [AllanJ_]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 15:29:46 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been Jim, Shawn, Scott, Laura, Glenda
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 15:29:54 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/10-lvtf-minutes.html trackbot
- 15:29:55 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 15:29:55 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items