IRC log of forms on 2017-06-07
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be
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- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
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- Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
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- Date: 07 June 2017
- 12:41:41 [Steven_]
- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0001
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- Chair: Steven
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- Regrets: Alaian
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- s/sis/si/
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- s/aia/ai/
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- Topic: XForms from XSDs?
- 13:02:16 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017May/0051.html
- 13:04:27 [Steven]
- Steven: Can we help this guy?
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- Philip: I've been in a similar situation.
- 13:05:57 [Steven]
- Steven: I've seen it done; Cordys had such a system, where you could drop an XSD, and it produced a first version of a form, with a binding to everything
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- ... and you could then drag controls around, or delete them.
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- Present+Oewn-Ambur
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- s/Oewn/Owen/
- 13:09:07 [Steven]
- Present: Erik, Philip, Steven, OwenAmbur
- 13:12:32 [Steven]
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18616008/xsd-to-xforms-and-xforms-to-xsd-conversion
- 13:13:08 [Steven]
- Steven: So there is that link, which has some pointers, you could try those three suggestions.
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- Topic: Dispatch with delay="0"
- 13:13:25 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017May/0049.html
- 13:13:34 [Steven]
- Steven: We need Alain to answer the question
- 13:13:45 [Steven]
- ... so I'll put this on hold until he returns.
- 13:14:18 [Steven]
- Topic: Events after xforms-disabled
- 13:14:18 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0000
- 13:14:18 [Steven]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017May/0030
- 13:16:03 [Steven]
- Steven: The problem I was trying to solve was that the disabled event is dispatched after the control is disabled.
- 13:16:29 [Steven]
- ... So maybe the solution is just to warn people of that, and say that listeners must be outside the control itself.
- 13:16:46 [Steven]
- Erik: What is our exact wording about disabled handlers? Let me look...
- 13:16:56 [ebruchez]
- 5.3.5 The relevant Property
- 13:17:02 [ebruchez]
- "event handlers for events targeted to a non-relevant control are disabled"
- 13:17:25 [ebruchez]
- "When a control becomes relevant, the action handlers that listen for events on the control must be re-enabled"
- 13:17:29 [ebruchez]
- 8.3.3 Relevance
- 13:19:02 [Steven]
- ACTION: Steven to replace all "listeners" to "handlers"
- 13:19:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2128 - Replace all "listeners" to "handlers" [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-06-14].
- 13:20:26 [Steven]
- Steven: Does our wording reflect reality?
- 13:20:53 [Steven]
- Erik: XML Events is meant to be a declarative spec for DOM Events, so what happens in DOM events should drive this
- 13:21:16 [Steven]
- ... so we don't really need to disable such handlers.
- 13:22:03 [Steven]
- Steven: So you are saying don't disable handlers, because after the control is disabled, events are not sent?
- 13:22:13 [Steven]
- Erik: Yes, that was a suggestion.
- 13:22:30 [Steven]
- ... IF we remove that wording, I don't see a problem.
- 13:22:36 [Steven]
- s/IF/If/
- 13:22:52 [Steven]
- ... I don't see the motivation for that text
- 13:23:42 [Steven]
- ... you could make a case for a handler nested in a control being disabled.
- 13:24:10 [Steven]
- Steven: Sounds convincing.
- 13:25:57 [Steven]
- ACTION: Steven to draft text for handler disabling
- 13:25:57 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2129 - Draft text for handler disabling [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-06-14].
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- Topic: AOB
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- [None]
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- [ADJOURN]
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/07-forms-minutes.html Steven
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