IRC log of exi on 2017-05-30

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Meeting: Efficient Extensible Interchange Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 30 May 2017
17:40:46 [taki]
DP: Two topics.
17:41:26 [taki]
DP: Vacation plan. I won't be available second part of June. June 19 till the end of June.
17:42:34 [taki]
TK: I plan to take a couple of days in August.
17:43:16 [taki]
DB: I will be in Australia. After that, I plan to take some, but will likely be able to dial-in.
17:43:40 [taki]
DP: What's geek week, Carine?
17:44:37 [taki]
CB: There will be limited availability, since team contacts will be working on internal geek projects.
17:44:56 [taki]
CB: Maybe it will not overlap with EXI telecon.
17:45:39 [taki]
DB: TPAC will be in November this year.
17:45:52 [caribou]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017AprJun/0084.html
17:45:52 [taki]
DP: I will try to be there.
17:46:37 [taki]
CB: We might be able to work on community group.
17:46:57 [taki]
CB: But not sure if we can use rooms at TPAC.
17:48:55 [taki]
CB: Community group needs five supporters.
17:49:04 [taki]
CB: By individuals.
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17:50:07 [taki]
CB: I am not sure if we can use member-only list, repositories, so on.
17:50:28 [taki]
CB: Github, yes.
17:51:13 [taki]
CB: The charter goes till end of August. We can extend it to finish canonical EXI.
17:51:29 [taki]
CB: I am not sure if we can re-charter as a WG.
17:51:55 [taki]
CB: Canonical EXI is the only thing that we have as REC track item.
17:53:16 [taki]
DB: We still have EXI2, interoperability with XML security, EXI4JSON, etc.
17:53:25 [taki]
DB: We need to describe how we can proceed.
17:53:59 [taki]
CB: XML security side, there is no longer a WG for that by now.
17:54:20 [taki]
CB: WoT people are good candidates to interact with.
17:54:56 [taki]
DP: There is some interest in EXI4JSON. We need to stabilize it as soon as possible.
17:55:22 [taki]
DP: I am not sure it is ok to keep working on it in community group.
17:56:23 [taki]
DP: JSON-LD is now community group, and is publishing a document for version 1.1.
17:58:36 [taki]
CB: Trying to move into WoT is another idea eventually.
18:00:15 [taki]
CB: Community groups can stay small. I don't think it harms discussion. Only drawback is that we cannot work on Recommendation Track.
18:01:15 [taki]
DB: We need to think about our goals first.
18:01:52 [taki]
CB: We might find other ideas in the meantime while we work on Canonical EXI.
18:02:31 [brutzman]
Many goals might well be suitable for Recommendation track. Additionally we do need more people to execute effectively. So thinking it through will be good.
18:02:46 [taki]
DP: We need to sketch different possibilities among options.
18:03:45 [taki]
DP: WoT people are interested in us, but the impression is they are not eager to work on new stuff on this.
18:04:51 [taki]
DP: How can a community group publish JSON-LD 1.1?
18:05:42 [dape]
https://json-ld.org/spec/latest/json-ld/
18:07:06 [taki]
CB: It is not yet published as W3C.
18:10:50 [taki]
DP: WoT WG requires specifications to be RECOMMENDATION to make normative references.
18:11:18 [taki]
DP: It is also relevant to our specs when WoT makes references to us.
18:13:23 [taki]
DP: In the case of Canonical EXI, we were already references by vehicle industry people (ISO specs).
18:15:50 [taki]
TOPIC: Canonical EXI
18:16:26 [taki]
TK: DP accounced the availability of TTFMS on Github.
18:17:35 [taki]
TK: I checked out Github repository. I plan to make sure if it runs ok or not.
18:18:11 [taki]
TK: I will work on test cases after that.
18:18:35 [taki]
DP: We need to show interoperability before PR?
18:18:55 [taki]
CB: Yes. Before the end of August, so that we can get extension.
18:19:05 [taki]
DP: It should be do-able.
18:19:28 [taki]
DP: If found necessary, we can still add some missing test cases.
18:20:28 [taki]
DP: We also need to resolve those test cases where we found differences between implementations already.
18:22:20 [taki]
DP: I will wait for some weeks. I will try to ping people then.
18:23:15 [taki]
DB: It may also be good to ask people which mode the group should be work on.
18:23:23 [taki]
s/work on/work in/
18:23:46 [taki]
DB: We can also reach out our old alumni as well.
18:24:07 [taki]
DB: We may get support from there.
18:24:57 [taki]
DP: Our former member (David Lee) is on the Balisage page.
18:26:27 [taki]
DB: How we can tell our story to external group, such as HTML, IoT, etc?
18:26:42 [taki]
DP: We created a blog page a couple of months ago.
18:28:10 [taki]
TOPIC: EXI4JSON
18:29:29 [taki]
DP: We found that it would be good to priotize integer representation and make it parallel to "number".
18:30:25 [taki]
DP: It is also the case that for some people it may be a trouble.
18:45:41 [taki]
DP: When people use json-ld, there will be no difference since they can define their own schema.
18:48:28 [taki]
TK: So today people seem to prefer to stay with the current structure.
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