IRC log of aria on 2017-05-04
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- 16:39:28 [joanie]
- chair: Joanmarie_Diggs
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- agenda?
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- Zakim, this will be
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- Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 May 2017
- 16:39:34 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
- 16:40:03 [joanie]
- agenda: this
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- agenda+ ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in
- 16:40:03 [joanie]
- agenda: be done
- 16:40:13 [joanie]
- agenda?
- 16:40:25 [joanie]
- Regrets: Bryan_Garaventa, Job_van_Achterberg, Matt_King, Gottfried_Zimmermann, Tzviya_Siegman, Léonie_Watson, Stefan_Schnabel, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Michiel_Bijl
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- Zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in" taken up [from joanie]
- 16:43:53 [joanie]
- joanie has changed the topic to: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md27b4a8f598994e81577a285c4ea80c6 Access code: 641 291 851
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- regrets- Michiel_Bijl
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- present+
- 17:02:02 [janina]
- present+
- 17:02:02 [joanie]
- present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
- 17:02:09 [MichaelC]
- present+
- 17:03:01 [jongund]
- present+ jongund
- 17:04:06 [MichielBijl]
- scribe: jongund
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- scribe, jongund
- 17:05:01 [joanie]
- https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/all.html
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- Joanie: We have a test results page
- 17:06:41 [jongund]
- JD: The number of assertions for ATK is 652 ...
- 17:07:04 [jongund]
- JD: ATAXI is over 700
- 17:07:30 [jongund]
- JD: There are still more testing in the wiki we are not testing, some are not processable
- 17:07:46 [MichielBijl]
- q+ to ask what WK01 and WK02 is?
- 17:07:58 [jongund]
- JD: We need shane do do some work to compare results, ....
- 17:08:46 [jongund]
- JD: We need an assertion for these tests, for example presentational children
- 17:08:51 [MichielBijl]
- ack me
- 17:08:51 [Zakim]
- MichielBijl, you wanted to ask what WK01 and WK02 is?
- 17:08:53 [jongund]
- JD: Questions
- 17:08:59 [joanie]
- https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/
- 17:09:41 [jongund]
- JD: We start prefixing by user agent and then version
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- JD: Explaining the labeling of the report
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- MB: that makes sense
- 17:10:54 [jongund]
- JD: I don't sleep, all I do is fix bugs
- 17:11:08 [jongund]
- JD: The test results page, if you scroll way down
- 17:11:41 [jongund]
- JD: Apple is pretty green
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- JD: Some of the failures is for silly reasons
- 17:12:14 [joanie]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/570
- 17:12:22 [jongund]
- JD: A bunch of failures may not be failures, it may be a problem in the core AMM
- 17:12:52 [jongund]
- JD: What safari does is not in sync with the core AMM, so maybe there needs to be changes in AMM
- 17:13:39 [jongund]
- JD: Apple is boils down to is not in the core AMM, and apple doesn't seem to think they should, so there maybe more green
- 17:13:59 [jongund]
- JD: FF for linux is not doing to good
- 17:14:46 [jongund]
- JD: If it is not implemented for ATK, it will probably not be implemented for IA2
- 17:15:10 [jongund]
- JD: Once we get IA2 testing working, we may have a problem
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- JD: Questions?
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- JD: Right now look at Chrome, I plan to file bugs soon
- 17:16:18 [jongund]
- JD: Google has an IA2 implementation, so they may fix them
- 17:16:29 [jongund]
- MB: where can we file bugs?
- 17:16:44 [jongund]
- JD: There is a tool for WPT reporting
- 17:16:46 [MichielBijl]
- https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests
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- MB: Is it that one?
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- JD: There is a small chance I will do a git pull
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- JD: That is the tool
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- MB: All the color they use fail
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- MB: It is something for people who maintain the tool
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- JD: There maybe a chance they fixed the color in the newer versions
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- JD: Checkout and see where if the colors are updated
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- MC: It is probably an imported file
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- MC: We were discussing where colors were defined
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- MB: I will file a bug
- 17:20:17 [jongund]
- JD: One other thing for minutes, it is related to manual testing
- 17:20:21 [joanie]
- https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/all.html
- 17:20:34 [joanie]
- http://www.w3c-test.org/wai-aria/alertdialog_modal_true-manual.html
- 17:20:50 [jongund]
- JD: If you go there and pull up a test, you will see it fails
- 17:21:26 [jongund]
- JD: If you are doing this locally, but you will get a table of the expectations, for example at UIA accessibility inspector
- 17:21:47 [jongund]
- JD: MS can't do this due to a COM error
- 17:22:02 [jongund]
- JD: Shane will do something, even without an ATTA
- 17:22:40 [joanie]
- s/a COM error/the fact that ATTAcomm.js is not on the server/
- 17:23:01 [jongund]
- JD: Other questions or status things?
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- JD: Otherwise we will end the meeting and I will answer Jon's questions
- 17:23:35 [jongund]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/04-aria-minutes.html jongund
- 17:31:19 [MichielBijl]
- FWIW: https://github.com/w3c/wptreport/pull/22
- 17:37:06 [joanie]
- https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/wai-aria