IRC log of aria on 2017-05-04

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16:39:28 [joanie]
chair: Joanmarie_Diggs
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RRSAgent, make log public
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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16:39:31 [joanie]
agenda?
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Zakim, this will be
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Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 04 May 2017
16:39:34 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:40:03 [joanie]
agenda: this
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agenda+ ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in
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agenda: be done
16:40:13 [joanie]
agenda?
16:40:25 [joanie]
Regrets: Bryan_Garaventa, Job_van_Achterberg, Matt_King, Gottfried_Zimmermann, Tzviya_Siegman, Léonie_Watson, Stefan_Schnabel, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Michiel_Bijl
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Zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in" taken up [from joanie]
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joanie has changed the topic to: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md27b4a8f598994e81577a285c4ea80c6 Access code: 641 291 851
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17:01:29 [joanie]
regrets- Michiel_Bijl
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present+
17:02:02 [janina]
present+
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present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
17:02:09 [MichaelC]
present+
17:03:01 [jongund]
present+ jongund
17:04:06 [MichielBijl]
scribe: jongund
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scribe, jongund
17:05:01 [joanie]
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/all.html
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Joanie: We have a test results page
17:06:41 [jongund]
JD: The number of assertions for ATK is 652 ...
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JD: ATAXI is over 700
17:07:30 [jongund]
JD: There are still more testing in the wiki we are not testing, some are not processable
17:07:46 [MichielBijl]
q+ to ask what WK01 and WK02 is?
17:07:58 [jongund]
JD: We need shane do do some work to compare results, ....
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JD: We need an assertion for these tests, for example presentational children
17:08:51 [MichielBijl]
ack me
17:08:51 [Zakim]
MichielBijl, you wanted to ask what WK01 and WK02 is?
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JD: Questions
17:08:59 [joanie]
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/
17:09:41 [jongund]
JD: We start prefixing by user agent and then version
17:10:10 [jongund]
JD: Explaining the labeling of the report
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MB: that makes sense
17:10:54 [jongund]
JD: I don't sleep, all I do is fix bugs
17:11:08 [jongund]
JD: The test results page, if you scroll way down
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JD: Apple is pretty green
17:11:54 [jongund]
JD: Some of the failures is for silly reasons
17:12:14 [joanie]
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/570
17:12:22 [jongund]
JD: A bunch of failures may not be failures, it may be a problem in the core AMM
17:12:52 [jongund]
JD: What safari does is not in sync with the core AMM, so maybe there needs to be changes in AMM
17:13:39 [jongund]
JD: Apple is boils down to is not in the core AMM, and apple doesn't seem to think they should, so there maybe more green
17:13:59 [jongund]
JD: FF for linux is not doing to good
17:14:46 [jongund]
JD: If it is not implemented for ATK, it will probably not be implemented for IA2
17:15:10 [jongund]
JD: Once we get IA2 testing working, we may have a problem
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JD: Questions?
17:15:53 [jongund]
JD: Right now look at Chrome, I plan to file bugs soon
17:16:18 [jongund]
JD: Google has an IA2 implementation, so they may fix them
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MB: where can we file bugs?
17:16:44 [jongund]
JD: There is a tool for WPT reporting
17:16:46 [MichielBijl]
https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests
17:17:01 [jongund]
MB: Is it that one?
17:17:29 [jongund]
JD: There is a small chance I will do a git pull
17:17:36 [jongund]
JD: That is the tool
17:18:03 [jongund]
MB: All the color they use fail
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MB: It is something for people who maintain the tool
17:18:37 [jongund]
JD: There maybe a chance they fixed the color in the newer versions
17:19:01 [jongund]
JD: Checkout and see where if the colors are updated
17:19:20 [jongund]
MC: It is probably an imported file
17:19:42 [jongund]
MC: We were discussing where colors were defined
17:19:49 [jongund]
MB: I will file a bug
17:20:17 [jongund]
JD: One other thing for minutes, it is related to manual testing
17:20:21 [joanie]
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/wai-aria/all.html
17:20:34 [joanie]
http://www.w3c-test.org/wai-aria/alertdialog_modal_true-manual.html
17:20:50 [jongund]
JD: If you go there and pull up a test, you will see it fails
17:21:26 [jongund]
JD: If you are doing this locally, but you will get a table of the expectations, for example at UIA accessibility inspector
17:21:47 [jongund]
JD: MS can't do this due to a COM error
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JD: Shane will do something, even without an ATTA
17:22:40 [joanie]
s/a COM error/the fact that ATTAcomm.js is not on the server/
17:23:01 [jongund]
JD: Other questions or status things?
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JD: Otherwise we will end the meeting and I will answer Jon's questions
17:23:35 [jongund]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/04-aria-minutes.html jongund
17:31:19 [MichielBijl]
FWIW: https://github.com/w3c/wptreport/pull/22
17:37:06 [joanie]
https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/wai-aria