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13:36:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
13:36:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:36:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:36:04 <trackbot> Date: 14 April 2017
13:36:12 <jeanne> agenda+ research checkin
13:36:12 <jeanne> agenda+ Next steps on research projects in the Silver Community Group
13:36:12 <jeanne> agenda+ Meeting at TPAC?
13:36:12 <jeanne> agenda+ What can members of the Community Group help us with
13:36:12 <jeanne> asynchronously?
13:36:25 <jeanne> agenda+ email draft to Stakeholders
13:36:31 <jeanne> agenda?
13:36:41 <jeanne> zakim, close item 5
13:36:41 <Zakim> agendum 5, Korean Mobile standards English  translation, closed
13:36:42 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:36:42 <Zakim> 6. research checkin [from jeanne]
13:36:45 <jemma> present+ sarah, jeanne, jemma
13:37:03 <jemma> I can scribe
13:37:13 <jeanne> scribe: jemma
13:37:30 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 6
13:37:30 <Zakim> agendum 6. "research checkin" taken up [from jeanne]
13:37:34 <jemma> can you hear me?
13:38:34 <jemma> present+ Jennison
13:39:06 <jemma> regret+ shawn, sukil, jan
13:39:12 <jemma> regret+ david
13:39:50 <SarahHorton> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bsqv595CnSzmUa2Tv53duudNvn_ExTW6xGx-6_ECM7c/edit#gid=55201506
13:39:56 <jemma> agenda 1
13:39:59 <jemma> next
13:40:03 <jemma> next item
13:42:16 <jemma> sarah is in touch base with stanley
13:42:27 <jemma> one of research partners
13:42:54 <jeanne> agenda+ Survey questions
13:43:41 <jemma> msu members are meeting this week to discuss
13:44:08 <jemma> the survey about current status of WCAG support for the people
13:45:11 <jemma> no update for Eleanor till IRB is done
13:45:36 <jemma> MSU is also working on IRB approval process
13:45:55 <jemma> Sukil's update is done
13:46:02 <jemma> this tuesday
13:46:24 <jemma> david swallow has a proposal
13:49:32 <jemma> david is composing diary study
13:50:11 <jemma> initially he thought about long term study with users
13:50:32 <jemma> but decided on more short term and more number of diary studies
13:51:10 <jemma> reporting of user experience of accessibility guidelines
13:51:35 <jemma> diary studies will be useful for this purpose
13:52:24 <jemma> his deliverable will be qualitative and quantitive report
13:52:43 <jemma> The first diary study will begin in May 2017.
13:54:08 <jemma> Jeanne: TF's research compensation support?
13:54:42 <jemma> Jeanne: sarah, can you help with this?
13:55:00 <jemma> sarah: David will be the better person to do this with his expereince
13:55:43 <jeanne> action:  Jeanne to talk with Dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies.
13:55:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Talk with dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies. [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-04-21].
13:56:04 <jemma> s/david/dave
13:59:25 <jemma> jemma: no update for the researcher in Japan yet
13:59:42 <jemma> jeanne: we may need to work more on asynchronous way
14:00:44 <jemma> there can be challenges in terms of language and time zone
14:00:54 <jeanne> agenda?
14:00:55 <jemma> to work synchonosly
14:01:19 <jemma> zakim, take up item 11
14:01:19 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Survey questions" taken up [from jeanne]
14:02:35 <jemma> preview for online survey by Peter McNally
14:03:10 <jemma> discussing the survey questionnaire by Peter McNally - interested in UX designer's experience
14:03:54 <jemma> designed using Qualtrics
14:04:19 <jemma> sarah: he has pretty to in depth questions
14:04:57 <jemma> sarah: he is trying to figure out which in depth questions can be done in survey or in depth interviews
14:07:00 <jemma> Jennison: accessibility of third party survey tool tends to be good but some of keyboard may not work. qualitrics would work well including survey monkey
14:07:17 <jemma> sarah:Pete's questions include
14:07:44 <jemma> "How well does the current structure of W3C Accessibility Guidelines support learning and remembering key principles of web accessibility?"
14:07:52 <jemma> which is pretty good
14:08:49 <jemma> also ask whether respondents are interested in 30-45 minute phone interview during May or June 2017
14:10:37 <jemma> Pete is planning to attend Silver TF meeting coming Tuesday
14:11:01 <jemma> TF members can look at the survey and talk about it at the meeting.
14:18:16 <jemma> zakim, take up item 10
14:18:16 <Zakim> agendum 10. "email draft to Stakeholders" taken up [from jeanne]
14:20:53 <jemma> jeanne: background of this email
14:21:12 <jemma> is from the regular meeting with michale cooper
14:21:44 <jemma> michale suggested to set up new form asking them to clarify their roles
14:22:10 <jemma> s/them/stakeholders
14:23:49 <jemma> to connect them to research partners
14:24:47 <jemma> jeanne: we also want to engage stakeholders
14:25:00 <jemma> and invite them to be part of community group
14:25:16 <jemma> and give updated info about the project progress
14:25:24 <jemma> and be part of research projects
14:25:51 <jemma> that is the background of this email
14:26:15 <jemma> sarah: survey isn't created yet, is it?
14:26:48 <jemma> jeanne: no. I am thinking about the design - how I can put multiple stakeholders in the survey form
14:27:10 <jemma> Sarah: stakeholder grouping may be misleading
14:27:13 <jemma> in the form
14:28:00 <jemma> sarah: I would list stakeholder roles but refrain grouping of stakeholders using header
14:28:48 <jemma> jennison: sometimes heading is helpful for accessibility but I get Sarah's points for 31 stakeholder roles
14:29:00 <jemma> being grouped by categories
14:29:33 <jemma> jeanne: we mapped stakeholders with their roles and actions
14:30:13 <jeanne> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/128vPnCweXN9t4JBG7-AOeBhT-KquaWXcCsi3H-f8u94/edit#gid=0
14:30:47 <jemma> role are Roles	Action	Consult	Make Policy	Use Policy	Make Content	Teach	Research	Make Standards	Make decisions	Help people with disabilities	Beneficiary of standards	Communicate	Measure/test
14:31:43 <jemma> s/Roles/by
14:32:49 <jemma> jeanne: we would like to capture both official title(ex: developer) and formal/informal responsibility in the role
14:33:13 <jemma> we have 31 roles for now
14:34:57 <jemma> jennison: in terms of sorting prospect,action based role may  be easier for researchers.
14:35:12 <jemma> s/prospect/perspective
14:36:32 <jeanne> agenda+
14:36:37 <jeanne> agenda?
14:36:46 <jemma> zakim, take up item 8
14:36:46 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Meeting at TPAC?" taken up [from jeanne]
14:37:11 <jeanne> https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/
14:37:31 <jemma> tpac is annual meeting for working group
14:38:00 <jemma> we can do formal and informal meetings
14:38:20 <jemma> monday, tuesday and thursday are reserved for workgroup meetings
14:38:38 <jemma> friday is plenary meeting day
14:39:04 <jemma> s/friday/wednesday
14:39:47 <jemma> jeanne: break sessions for the group are available
14:40:06 <jemma> jeanne: we can do breakout session
14:41:43 <jemma> date is 6-10 NOVEMBER 2017
14:42:57 <jemma> jeanne: we did last min breakout session last year
14:43:56 <jemma> jeanne: Shawn and I can do one this year on Wed
14:44:04 <jemma> if necessary
14:44:16 <jemma> we can get only a room for two hours
14:45:01 <jemma> jennison:  I would be able to attend the session
14:45:44 <jemma> jennison: that would be a good public engagement
14:48:54 <jemma> jennison:CSUN will be a good venue for prototyping
14:49:40 <jemma> jeanne: CSUN and TPAC are good bookmarks for the silver TF projects
14:50:59 <jemma> jeanne: we have an space offer from accessibility dept in community college for the meeting
14:51:04 <jemma> s/an/a
14:54:12 <jemma> sarah: in the TPAC, there is brainstorming method and more which can be part of the prototype such as visioning workshop
14:54:57 <jemma> jeanne: any chance for connecting to meet up group?
14:55:23 <jemma> jeanne: having 2 hour visioning workshop?
14:55:34 <jemma> jennison: that would be very attractive to the group
14:56:29 <jemma> jennison: I can help to find a venue
14:56:52 <jemma> jeanne: we can also bring TPAC people
14:57:17 <jemma> jeanne:having accessibility meet up in the night will be good.
14:57:36 <jemma> jennison: our meet up schedule can be flexible
14:58:21 <jemma> 9th of november?
14:59:16 <jemma> jennison: our group is "bay area accessibility and inclusive design meet up" - have 900 members
14:59:50 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
14:59:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
15:00:17 <jeanne> rrsagent, make logs public
15:01:06 <jeanne> regrets+ Shawn, Sukil, Dave, Jan
15:20:47 <jeanne> chair: Jeanne
15:21:04 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
15:21:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
15:22:10 <jeanne> s/asynchronously?//
15:22:23 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
17:20:25 <jeanne> trackbot, end meeting
17:20:25 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:20:25 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Jan, Jeanne, Shawn, JaEunJemmaKu, sarahhorton, Jemma, Jennison, Sukil, sukilkim
17:20:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:20:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html trackbot
17:20:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:20:34 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-actions.rdf :
17:20:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeanne to talk with Dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies. [1]
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