IRC log of exi on 2017-04-10

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Zakim, this will be EXIWG
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ok, trackbot
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Meeting: Efficient Extensible Interchange Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 10 April 2017
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Present: Taki, Daniel, Carine
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TOPIC: Efficient XML Interchange - Wikipedia
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DP: I do not know who to ping with regards to German wikipedia page on EXI. I keep getting a weekly reminder.
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DP: I cannot make it to the EXI telecon next week.
14:17:54 [brutzman]
thanks for alert Taki, my calendar had said an hour from now.
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having trouble connecting +1-617-324-0000,640116166#,#
14:19:02 [brutzman]
just found the mail update... am trying
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fwiw last weeks minutes include some "delete me" diagnostic output https://www.w3.org/2017/04/04-exi-minutes.html
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TOPIC: Canonical EXI test cases README
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DP: I looked into what Grishma and TK said.
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DP: I found missing implentation.
14:30:37 [taki]
DP: There are some strange warnings.
14:31:18 [taki]
DP: That's OK. There is one issue wrt performance measurement. I do not know where it comes from.
14:32:26 [taki]
DP: I thought we are using Japex. I am not sure how much we changed Japex.
14:33:18 [brutzman]
https://japex.java.net/
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looks like last update was 6 years ago, when Oracle acquired Sun
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also at http://japex.sourceforge.net/
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DP: We are still using Japex 1.0
14:37:35 [taki]
DP: The sourceforge link is for something else.
14:38:36 [taki]
I found this. https://github.com/ModelDriven/fUML-Reference-Implementation/issues/26
14:39:52 [taki]
TK: This person was able to avoid the warnings by using newer version xerces.
14:40:09 [brutzman]
be careful that everything is backed up (i.e. fully checked in) before upgrading japex, it looks like it has been neglected for a long time
14:41:28 [taki]
DP: Unless we have real problems, we should be ok as it is for now.
14:42:12 [taki]
DP: The 1.2 version structure looks a bit different.
14:42:36 [taki]
DP: Changing to the latest version may not be straightforward, and can cause other problems.
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TK: We do not have datatype test cases yet.
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DP: How do we make sure implementations do what the specification says it needs to do?
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TK: I think we can assume each implementation did its best to implement the specification.
15:08:51 [taki]
Daniel takes Decimal, Float and RCS test case development. TK takes Unsigned Integer, String Table and Datetime.
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TOPIC: Wikipedia
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Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient_XML_Interchange
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in History section: "In November 2016, the working group was renamed to "Efficient Extensible Interchange (EXI)" from "Efficient XML Interchange (EXI)" to reflect the broader scope of EXI applicability"
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suggest appending "beyond XML to other data-description languages."
15:14:25 [brutzman]
under Uses, might we mention work in progress regarding CSS and JavaScript as well
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proposed: EXI4CSS is exploring how to map Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) to EXI.
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proposed: EXI for JavaScript appears to be possible if using the initial structured parse tree for source code.
15:23:00 [brutzman]
that's all i had for today, thanks for discussion/review and continuous improvement!
15:24:10 [taki]
rrsagent, create minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/10-exi-minutes.html taki
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