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17:03:51 <jamesnurthen> meeting: ARIA APG TF
17:03:57 <annabbott> present+ AnnAbbott
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17:04:10 <annabbott> present+ Bryan Garaventa
17:04:27 <mck> present+ matt_king
17:04:33 <sirib> present + Shirisha Balusani
17:04:53 <mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Jan+2017+Clean+Up%22+sort%3Aupdated-desc
17:05:31 <jamesnurthen> scribe: jamesnurthen
17:05:54 <jamesnurthen> MK: Start at the top of the list. Walk through and work out what we are going to discuss
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17:09:27 <sirib> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m4b54b847795d432ef8a2ba82e488fea2
17:09:33 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/321
17:09:46 <jamesnurthen> MK: will look at this with Tatiana.
17:10:11 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/334
17:10:19 <jamesnurthen> MK: assume this is still outstanding
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17:11:25 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/144
17:11:41 <jamesnurthen> MK: have to merge - there is a PR related
17:11:55 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/340
17:13:13 <jamesnurthen> merged the new PR into it
17:14:51 <jamesnurthen> MK: will do final checks on 340 - feedback has been addressed
17:18:19 <jamesnurthen> Logged https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/355
17:18:57 <jamesnurthen> MK: 1 thing we dont have in menu examples is an example of using aria-owns rather than putting the children inside the menu item
17:19:57 <jemma> arrow keyboard navigation in vertical menubar will be reverse of horizontal menubar's
17:20:08 <jamesnurthen> MK: vertical menubar priority is relatively low
17:22:43 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/325
17:24:03 <jamesnurthen> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#dialog_modal
17:24:08 <sirib> is it 325?
17:27:54 <jamesnurthen> yes 325
17:34:07 <jemma> +q
17:35:06 <jamesnurthen> bryan: dont understand its purpose if it is not to hide the content from at users
17:37:59 <jamesnurthen> When a modal element is displayed, authors must ensure the interface can be controlled using only descendants of the modal element. In other words, if a modal dialog has a close button, the button should be a descendant of the dialog. When a modal element is displayed, authors should mark all other contents as inert (such as "inert subtrees" in HTML) if the ability to do so exists in the host language.
17:38:02 <jamesnurthen> (from the spec)
17:38:53 <jamesnurthen> MK: it is a screen reader's job to limit navigation to stuff inside a modal
17:39:02 <jamesnurthen> MK: what makes something inert is the real issue
17:39:50 <jamesnurthen> seems to me that is a screen reader user can see what is outside the dialog - it is still the author's job to ensure that activating links outside the dialog doesn't do anything.
17:48:57 <jamesnurthen> MK: if you can see and operate outside the dialog should not be using aria-modal
17:52:24 <jamesnurthen> JN: will work on it
17:53:13 <jamesnurthen> When a modal element is displayed, authors must ensure the interface can be controlled using only descendants of the modal element. In other words, if a modal dialog has a close button, the button should be a descendant of the dialog. When a modal element is displayed, authors should mark all other contents as inert (such as "inert subtrees" in HTML) if the ability to do so exists in the host language.
17:53:22 <jemma> ack me
17:53:23 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/279
17:53:42 <jamesnurthen> MK: gave Feedback in the issue
17:54:01 <jamesnurthen> MK: ready to close
17:54:46 <jamesnurthen> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/224
18:00:51 <jamesnurthen> <discussion on change>
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18:05:03 <sirib> It is little confusing
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