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17:01:23 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
17:01:23 <trackbot> Date: 06 April 2017
17:01:26 <Rich> RRSAgent, make log public
17:01:33 <Rich> chair: Rich
17:01:42 <Rich> present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:02:55 <Stefan> present+
17:03:10 <MichaelC> present+
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17:04:44 <Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2017Apr/0009.html
17:06:05 <MichaelC> regrets: Jason_Duan
17:06:53 <clown> present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:09:04 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
17:09:13 <Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2017Apr/0009.html
17:09:38 <MichaelC> agenda?
17:10:11 <MichaelC> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2017Apr/0009.html
17:10:18 <clown> official copy: https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/
17:10:25 <clown> bleeding edge copy: https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/semantics.html
17:10:28 <MichaelC> topic: COGA Semantics to Enable Personalization: Advance to FPWD?
17:11:24 <MichaelC> rs: ready to send CfC to publish?
17:11:34 <MichaelC> mc: yes, as soon as I implement some edits from Lisa
17:11:42 <MichaelC> the ¨bleeding edge¨ version is the current version
17:11:48 <Rich> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/semantics.html
17:12:25 <MichaelC> a couple new properties to add, big ass section at end cut out for now
17:12:35 <MichaelC> rs: ok, will send CfC soon
17:13:19 <MichaelC> topic: PYIA2 (Python to IA2 bridge) Progress
17:13:44 <MichaelC> s/rs: ok, will send CfC soon/RESOLUTION: take Personalization Semantics to FPWD/
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17:14:42 <MichaelC> jg: biggest challenge was detecting IA2
17:14:51 <MichaelC> have found right incantation of <techspeak>
17:15:15 <MichaelC> so now able to start on the real work
17:15:37 <MichaelC> need to work with Joanie on implementing right methods
17:15:59 <MichaelC> a bit different roles, states, properties
17:16:04 <MichaelC> do we use IA, or IA2?
17:16:22 <MichaelC> some states and properties come via each separate channel
17:16:35 <MichaelC> also developing test pages to exercise interface
17:16:53 <MichaelC> mc: not using test harness?
17:16:59 <MichaelC> jg: not until ATTA complete
17:17:24 <MichaelC> for other interfaces, there aren´t multiple ways to get states
17:17:28 <MichaelC> for this, there are 2
17:17:36 <MichaelC> so I need to know how to handle
17:17:55 <MichaelC> js: Core-AAM says in many cases which one we care about
17:18:07 <MichaelC> jg: so the ATTA would need to parse that info and do something smart with it
17:18:24 <MichaelC> rs: test harness has platform expectations
17:18:38 <MichaelC> so when see IA2 stuff, will go to IA2 interface
17:18:44 <MichaelC> etc. for other interfaces
17:18:58 <clown> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#errormessage_object_in_valid_state, for example
17:19:19 <MichaelC> mc: stupid question
17:19:26 <MichaelC> everyone: no, just one ATTA
17:19:38 <MichaelC> jg: just need Joanie´s input on what she wants
17:20:14 <MichaelC> we can provide multiple interfaces, don´t know how it´ll interface with Joanie´s stuff
17:20:26 <MichaelC> jg: Also, anyone know IA2proxy.dll?
17:20:49 <MichaelC> rs, js: 64-bit and 32-bit versions
17:20:55 <MichaelC> jg: please send pointers
17:21:11 <MichaelC> it´s working on a couple Windows machines, but not another
17:21:21 <MichaelC> maybe that´s the issue
17:22:16 <MichaelC> rs: looking around...
17:22:21 <MichaelC> js: part of AccProbe
17:23:12 <clown> https://github.com/IBMa/AccProbe
17:23:26 <MichaelC> js: ^ has stuff
17:23:33 <MichaelC> jg: next week will bring my students to the call
17:23:51 <MichaelC> topic: Work on test harness during meeting
17:24:00 <MichaelC> rs: you guys don´t need the handholding
17:24:07 <MichaelC> can you pick some?
17:24:26 <MichaelC> js: I can start at the bottom
17:24:31 <MichaelC> mc: put names by them
17:24:49 <MichaelC> rs: JS, go from 28 down?
17:25:13 <MichaelC> mc: do we need more helpers?
17:25:49 <MichaelC> rs: let´s focus on Rich, Stefan, Joseph who are now quite familiar
17:26:06 <MichaelC> ask Bryan to finish his (has open questions) or reassign to Stefan
17:27:02 <MichaelC> so nothing more for call, let´s go to work!
17:30:20 <MichaelC> mc: should I be doing test harness stuff? there´s a learning curve, but can if needed
17:30:55 <MichaelC> rs: perhaps not, we´ll move along with the above
17:31:20 <MichaelC> clown: Core-AAM still awaiting some MS pull requests and a couple Apple responses
17:31:25 <MichaelC> rs: have pinged those people
17:31:41 <MichaelC> clown: AccName has a couple open issues to process
17:32:41 <MichaelC> there was a feature request, but not implemented yet, and needs CSS TF attention
17:33:03 <MichaelC> mc: sounds like we should bump that to .next
17:34:17 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:38:31 <MichaelC> zakim,b ye
17:38:31 <Zakim> I don't understand 'b ye', MichaelC
17:38:35 <MichaelC> zakim, bye
17:38:35 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Stefan, MichaelC, Joseph_Scheuhammer
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17:38:37 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
17:38:37 <RRSAgent> I see no action items