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13:56:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference
13:56:40 <trackbot> Date: 29 March 2017
13:58:10 <Wilco> agenda+ Should our meeting time change - Doodle poll https://beta.doodle.com/poll/2i6b3szkf2ewmasq
13:58:26 <Wilco> agenda+ Test case repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository
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13:58:37 <Wilco> agenda+ Rules repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Rules_repository
13:58:49 <Wilco> agenda+ ACT benchmark https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Benchmark_requirements
13:58:59 <Wilco> agenda+ Open Issues in Github https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues
13:59:02 <Wilco> agenda?
13:59:08 <Wilco> present+
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14:05:12 <cpandhi> scribe:cpandhi
14:05:21 <maryjom> present+ MaryJoMueller
14:05:25 <cpandhi> present +
14:06:28 <cpandhi> present+ cpandhi
14:07:28 <shadi> present+
14:08:37 <cpandhi> MJ: move the ACT editors meeting and reschedule the regular ACT meeting to Monday 9:00 AM US central time
14:08:59 <cpandhi> Wilco: same time but moving to Monday
14:09:24 <cpandhi> Wilco: will send a seperate email to coordinate the leaders meeting
14:09:36 <cpandhi> zakim, take up next
14:09:36 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Should our meeting time change - Doodle poll https://beta.doodle.com/poll/2i6b3szkf2ewmasq" taken up [from Wilco]
14:10:02 <Wilco> zakim, close item 1
14:10:02 <Zakim> agendum 1, Should our meeting time change - Doodle poll https://beta.doodle.com/poll/2i6b3szkf2ewmasq, closed
14:10:04 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:04 <Zakim> 2. Test case repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository [from Wilco]
14:10:05 <cpandhi> zakim close item
14:10:17 <cpandhi> zakim, close item
14:10:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', cpandhi
14:12:08 <cpandhi> Wilco: dropped some thoughts on the Test repository, need to figure out what format to use, look at some existing ones that has the most test cases and g from there
14:13:33 <Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository
14:15:03 <cpandhi> Shadi: not seeing much content on the page
14:15:43 <cpandhi> MJ: we need to populate this with the content from Auto-WCAG?
14:16:52 <cpandhi> Wilco: no Auto-WCAG does not have test case but Vallys, aXe, Level Access, which we can move
14:17:58 <Wilco> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Testing_Resources
14:18:08 <cpandhi> MJ: Alistair email has links to test cases
14:18:24 <cpandhi> Wilco: will grb that link here
14:18:51 <cpandhi> MJ: i added link to Alistair's page
14:19:39 <cpandhi> MJ: i have added test procedure from DHS
14:19:59 <cpandhi> Wilco: looking if there are examples
14:20:28 <cpandhi> Wilco: ok the links have code snippets,
14:20:40 <cpandhi> Wilco: who hosts aria examples?
14:21:30 <cpandhi> Shadi: John Gunderson?
14:22:03 <cpandhi> Shadi: check with Michael how to drag these out from Github
14:22:13 <cpandhi> Wilco: will send him an email
14:22:43 <cpandhi> Wilco: what else is good? is the before and after demo still good?
14:23:17 <cpandhi> Shadi: this is real life site like a controlled environment, not test cases
14:23:48 <cpandhi> Wilco: Let me think about this
14:24:12 <cpandhi> cpandhi: may be add it as additional resource
14:24:26 <cpandhi> Shadi: yes that can be done
14:24:58 <cpandhi> Wilco: yes we can use it, what other training material is out there?
14:25:17 <cpandhi> Wilco: Google released some material
14:25:31 <Wilco> https://webaccessibility.withgoogle.com/course
14:25:31 <cpandhi> Shadi: how that would relate to test cases?
14:26:01 <cpandhi> Wilco: they usually have best practices and code snippets
14:26:29 <cpandhi> Wilco: deque has course work with examples, may be will have to do a doodle pole
14:27:12 <maryjom> s/pole/poll
14:28:33 <cpandhi> Wilco: so did you MJ, Shadi and Charu look at Alistair's mail?
14:28:56 <cpandhi> Wilco: how about take some time and respond after the meeting
14:29:06 <cpandhi> Zakim, take up next
14:29:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Test case repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository" taken up [from Wilco]
14:29:25 <cpandhi> Zakim, close item 2
14:29:25 <Zakim> agendum 2, Test case repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository, closed
14:29:27 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:29:27 <Zakim> 3. Rules repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Rules_repository [from Wilco]
14:29:50 <cpandhi> Zakim, take up next
14:29:50 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Rules repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Rules_repository" taken up [from Wilco]
14:32:45 <cpandhi> Wilco: thoughts? looking for an efficient way to create this.
14:33:39 <cpandhi> Shadi: Quickref, that is interesting, i like the idea
14:34:59 <cpandhi> Wilco: can break off based on automated, semi automated and so on
14:35:19 <cpandhi> Shadi: yes we can have a swtch in the quickref
14:35:52 <cpandhi> Shadi: is there an acceptance criteria? how htis relates to test cases and bench marking?
14:36:40 <maryjom> s/htis/this/
14:36:49 <cpandhi> Wilco: yes that makes sense, the way to do is to every 6 months or twice a year to have a survey and approval?
14:37:35 <cpandhi> Shadi: yes that can be additional, but how do we validate that these rules are evaluated and valid
14:38:38 <cpandhi> Wilco: We will filter the rules before it goes to AG, and do a bench marking depending on the resources we have for the rules
14:39:28 <cpandhi> Shadi: so if we put the bench marking to aside, how do we make it easy for folks who come with a new rule to be valid
14:40:29 <cpandhi> Wilco: i suggest we do it with a pull request and the WG can evaluate that based on interpretation
14:41:02 <cpandhi> Shadi: i think that is a great approach, get an agreement with comments
14:41:28 <cpandhi> Shadi: when a rule comes in, it will be reviewed and then have a survey
14:41:49 <cpandhi> Wilco: so yes we will have a paper trail on our agreement
14:42:13 <cpandhi> Shadi: as long as we have agreement from the most in the group
14:42:31 <cpandhi> Wilco: can come up with some questions
14:42:43 <cpandhi> Wilco: comformes to our rule format
14:43:49 <cpandhi> Shadi: one of the question is to ask, do you approve this rules and intend to implement this rule or have concerns with this rule or do not intend to implement this rule
14:44:54 <Wilco> - Have concerns about the rules - Approve of the rule - Have implemented - Intent to implement
14:45:13 <shadi> +1
14:45:19 <maryjom> +1
14:46:52 <cpandhi> Wilco: we can work with the person who submitted the rule, check out the rule and get the support of the WG
14:47:05 <cpandhi> Wilco: who is going to lead this
14:49:00 <cpandhi> Wilco: we have the rules repository, test case repository, benchmark
14:49:41 <cpandhi> Wilco: Alistair has volunteered to lead the test repository
14:50:03 <cpandhi> Shadi: what do you need done, i may have Eric do it
14:50:56 <cpandhi> Wilco: i can take one of those, can IBM take one?
14:52:39 <cpandhi> Charu: prob Moe, i want to focus on developing the rules
14:52:59 <cpandhi> Shadi: do you want to send Eric an email and cc me
14:53:26 <cpandhi> Shadi: no i will talk to him first instead
14:53:38 <cpandhi> s/Shadi/Wilco
14:54:13 <cpandhi> Shadi: The Auto-WCAG, do you have an interface?
14:54:29 <cpandhi> Wilco: yes, it is not so great
14:55:02 <cpandhi> Shadi: May be after March 19 this can go into Auto-WCAG, do we need a task force?
14:56:06 <cpandhi> Wilco: i think the workload will be less, auto-wcag should not be the gate keeper, certailny do not need a task force
14:56:32 <cpandhi> Shadi: the reason is community groups are easy to join and we have quite a few
14:57:18 <cpandhi> Wilco: They can contribute to rules repository as well as Auto-WCAG WG
14:58:14 <cpandhi> Shadi: I am wondering if i should take the lead, it needs lot of coordinating work
14:58:36 <cpandhi> Shadi: ok put my name there for this with someone may be
14:58:54 <cpandhi> Wilco: ok i will keep that
14:59:28 <cpandhi> Wilco: The Task force could get disolved once the rules format is done
15:00:02 <cpandhi> Shadi: May be we can reuse and bubble up into AG WG
15:00:19 <cpandhi> Wilco: a structure like that makes sense
15:01:10 <cpandhi> Mary Jo: are we changing the time change next week?
15:01:39 <cpandhi> Wilco: good question, yes MJ can you send an email on the time change
15:02:20 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
15:02:20 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:02:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Wilco, MaryJoMueller, cpandhi, shadi
15:02:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:02:29 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:02:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items