IRC log of digitaloffers on 2017-03-13

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Meeting: Digital Offers CG
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Chair: Linda
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Scribe: Ian
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agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digitaloffers/2017Mar/0000.html
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present+ Linda
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present+
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present+ Adam
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present+ Bob
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present+ Amber
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present+ David
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Present+ Manu
16:06:16 [ltoth]
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16:07:12 [Ian]
use cases => https://www.w3.org/community/digitaloffers/discussion-topics-for-discussion-at-march-2017-ig-face-to-face-meeting/
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form for prioritization => https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/73816/digoff201703/
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ltoth: One question - in a number of cases we had notes.
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IJ: I left them in because we did not "approve" them
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+1
16:10:47 [manu]
q+ to mention something wrt. poll.
16:15:34 [dezell]
Manu: I think we don't want to go to the DRM question, as long as it handles "no more than one use."
16:15:39 [dezell]
Ian: sounds fine.
16:16:16 [dezell]
LGTM
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Ian: second thing - the "form" for prioritization.
16:17:00 [dezell]
Ian: the IG is not the final authority on the CG work.
16:17:22 [dezell]
Ian: the form should make it clear it's for feedback.
16:17:26 [manu]
q-
16:17:36 [manu]
q+ to provide feedback on the use case prioritization form.
16:17:57 [Ian]
IJ: Intended for real-time gathering of data at the meeting
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ack manu
16:17:59 [Zakim]
manu, you wanted to provide feedback on the use case prioritization form.
16:18:18 [Ian]
manu: I went to try out the form ... some feedback ... I read that each person has tokens and I didn't know what I was selecting.
16:18:25 [dezell]
Manu: form feedback - didn't understand "tokens" and then how to apply to the dropdown.
16:18:33 [dezell]
Ian: got it.
16:19:11 [dezell]
Manu: I found it painful to allocate the tokens (i.e. we gave the right number). Finally, I found I had to go back and forth between the "poll" and the "page".
16:19:51 [dezell]
Manu: I think a "tickler phrase" from the page on the poll would help people to remember what's what.
16:21:25 [dezell]
Ian: I have anchors in the report for this purpose, but haven't added them yet. Or I could number them, but that's a brittle way to link thinks (moving anything breaks it.)
16:21:45 [dezell]
Ian: I think easiest is to put a reminder structure at the bottom.
16:22:36 [dezell]
Manu: links are fine, but broad categories are probably better in terms of links.
16:22:49 [dezell]
Ian: but then I can't allocate 9 tokens for all of them.
16:24:06 [dezell]
Manu: how about category and specific use case?
16:24:18 [dezell]
Ian: I can do that, but I would find it distracting.
16:25:39 [Ian]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/73816/digoff201703/
16:28:20 [dezell]
Manu: how about moving recap to the top.
16:28:26 [dezell]
Ian: OK with that.
16:28:47 [dezell]
Manu: also a health warning that moving off the page will invalidate the form.
16:29:18 [dezell]
Linda: Is this just the IG opinion, or does it include the CG.
16:30:06 [dezell]
Ian: it's to inform CG decisions, but it's a poll for the IG.
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q?
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David: who will send the message out?
16:33:20 [dezell]
Ian: I'm not sure we should send a message.
16:33:42 [dezell]
Linda: I think we could use the same form for the CG.
16:34:02 [dezell]
Ian: though I think we will make some modifications of some sort.
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q?
16:36:36 [dezell]
Ian: my idea is to have them fill out this form at the F2F after they have some context.
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(consensus - OK).
16:39:24 [dezell]
Linda: our schedule is 45 (use cases) 45 (demo and capabilities) 30 (summary topics).
16:39:39 [dezell]
Ian: I suggest we do the survey at the end of the discussion.
16:40:21 [Ian]
Manu: is discussion of technology specific solutions in order?
16:40:33 [Ian]
...e.g., blockchain approach to avoiding N > 1 redemptions
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q+
16:40:41 [dezell]
Manu: we have a "blockchain" use case to prevent multiple redemption. I don't want people to be surprised.
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ack i
16:41:33 [dezell]
Ian: I'm not sure how that affects W3C work.
16:41:45 [dezell]
Manu: blockchain CG has work in this area.
16:42:08 [dezell]
Linda:
16:42:10 [Ian]
https://www.w3.org/community/digitaloffers/digital-offers-community-group-charter/
16:42:18 [dezell]
Linda: so after the voting, what's next.
16:42:25 [adam]
q+
16:42:52 [dezell]
Ian: charter says "we will deliver a report" and then "develop an analysis that will help us address the use cases".
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q-
16:43:08 [dezell]
Ian: there might be a further CG filtering of the use cases.
16:44:25 [dezell]
Ian: Nirvana is "lots of industry folks are ready to attempt to implement". But we can change that based on results.
16:45:16 [Ian]
Here's the list of use cases we came up with in June 2015 that led to the WPWG => https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Main_Page/FTF_June2015/Summary
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topic: Next meeting
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Linda: Will figure out at FTF
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