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<scribe> Chair: Ian
zkoch: Having various discussions
and there seems to be support for an open checkout
identity
... still need more time to make internal progress
IJ: What can we do to help?
zkoch: It would be helpful to hear from others that they would be available to advocate for an open web checkout
molly: I will check
<koalie> IJ: Had a chat with Adam yesterday
<adamR> zkoch: I have a query in to our head of marketing
IJ: Time frame zach?
zkoch: next call
IJ: Ken, how does it look from the Amex side to drive an identity for open web checkout?
Andrew: The identity effort
resonates for me
... having some branding will help merchants
... they may be familiar with w3c but not payment request
API
<zkoch> I like that!
Ken: We'd be interested in
supporting a proposal from zach that improves participation of
all the different parties
... there's definitely good will
... It would be helpful to build out a matrix that helps
different merchants understand how they will participate
... What I haven't seen is some sort of matrix that outlines
the different types of merchants out there; what would appeal
to them about w3c specs, and how those specs will help
them.
... I don't think that there is a one-size fits all approach
here
IJ: Would it be useful to hear from larger WG next week on this?
zkoch: Yes
<zkoch> New open web proposal: “Zach Pay” -> I shall present at the f2f
https://github.com/w3c/payment-request-info
IJ: Where to start/ Who will take assignments?
Ken: when the charter was written, I am assuming that the merchant role in adopting the PR API was balanced against other roles in the ecosystem
IJ: We did not have an outreach plan at charter time.
Ken: One approach is to start
with pilots, or showcase examples
... these are used to bolster the business case and advocate
for greater adoption
... identify the incentives (both carrots and sticks)
... if we don't have demos right now that are public, we should
look at creating some
... from an Amex perspective, a high-level swath would be: (1)
pilot project in four regions (e.g., N.A., S.A., EMEA,
Asia-Pacific)
... we could find some high-profile partners
... and if those are favorable, use those to drive additional
adoption
<Molly> I'm sorry everyone, I have to run!
IJ: could Amex take the lead on such a project?
Ken: We would like to support the
effort.
... an effort should have both technical and business
components
... I mean the business component as directed toward the
merchant
<zkoch> :)
Ken: understanding pain
points
... big obstacle I've found is how to communicate it
... it seems like w3c work requires a lot of pictures
<zkoch> Unfortunately I have to head out to make next meeting… This is interesting. Would like to continue at our next chat
Proposed 24 Feb at 8am PT
(an hour earlier than usual)
Andrew: Agree with some of the challenges Ken cited, and articulating the story for the merchant
https://github.com/w3c/payment-request-info/blob/master/README.md
scribe: we'd like to continue to help
--
Code examples
User experience patterns
Answers to common questions
Implementation status
Branding guidance
Value proposition
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Andrew: For generating new stuff, I need to check internally
Ken: I could see doing some trial
runs (e.g., a few slides) and then testing them
... people want simple, illustrated
... questions like "how does this work with big merchants who
already have a checkout button"
... or "if merchants already have checkout buttons by contract,
how does this work"?
Andrew: I have heard similar
questions to the ones Ken has raised
... and also agree that different sized merchants have
different questions
... also have questions about promotions are applied.
PROPOSED: Gather questions (and draft answers) from merchants (or senior managements)
<scribe> ACTION: Ken to gather some questions from merchants/others [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/10-wpwg-minutes.html#action01]
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<scribe> ACTION: Andrew to gather some questions from merhcants/others [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/10-wpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Gather some questions from merhcants/others [on Andrew - due 2017-02-17].
IJ: Any other questions or thoughts?
https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Adoption2017
<koalie> thanks all, bye!