IRC log of wpwg on 2017-02-10

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Meeting: Merchant Adoption Strategy
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Chair: IAn
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Chair: Ian
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-strategy/2017Feb/0003.html
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regrets+
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present+
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present+ Koalie
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present+ Rouslan
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present+ zkoch
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present+ Molly
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present+ Coralie
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agenda+ Identity
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present- Koalie
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agenda+ Dev resources
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zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Identity" taken up [from Ian]
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zkoch: Having various discussions and there seems to be support for an open checkout identity
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...still need more time to make internal progress
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IJ: What can we do to help?
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zkoch: It would be helpful to hear from others that they would be available to advocate for an open web checkout
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molly: I will check
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IJ: Had a chat with Adam yesterday
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zkoch: I have a query in to our head of marketing
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IJ: Time frame zach?
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zkoch: next call
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IJ: Ken, how does it look from the Amex side to drive an identity for open web checkout?
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Andrew: The identity effort resonates for me
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..having some branding will help merchants
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...they may be familiar with w3c but not payment request API
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I like that!
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Ken: We'd be interested in supporting a proposal from zach that improves participation of all the different parties
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..there's definitely good well
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s/well/will
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present+
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Ken: It would be helpful to build out a matrix that helps different merchants understand how they will participate
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present+ Andrew
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present+ Ken
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zakim, how's here?
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I don't understand your question, Ian.
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: Ian, Rouslan, zkoch, Molly, Coralie, Andrew, Ken
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On IRC I see Molly, rouslan, koalie, zkoch, RRSAgent, Zakim, adamR, dlehn, davidillsley_, canton_, pea13, AdrianHB, emschwartz, oyiptong, nicktr, adrianba, JakeA, Dongwoo,
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... slightlyoff, mkwst, manu, dlongley, Ian, ShaneM, hober, schuki, trackbot
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Ken: What I haven't seen is some sort of matrix that outlines the different types of merchants out there; what would appeal to them about w3c specs, and how those specs will help them.
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...I don't think that there is a one-size fits all approach here
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IJ: Would it be useful to hear from larger WG next week on this?
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zkoch: Yes
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q?
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New open web proposal: “Zach Pay” -> I shall present at the f2f
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 1 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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2. Dev resources [from Ian]
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zakim, take up item 2
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agendum 2. "Dev resources" taken up [from Ian]
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https://github.com/w3c/payment-request-info
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IJ: Where to start/ Who will take assignments?
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Ken: when the charter was written, I am assuming that the merchant role in adopting the PR API was balanced against other roles in the ecosystem
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IJ: We did not have an outreach plan at charter time.
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Ken: One approach is to start with pilots, or showcase examples
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...these are used to bolster the business case and advocate for greater adoption
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...identify the incentives (both carrots and sticks)
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...if we don't have demos right now that are public, we should look at creating some
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...from an Amex perspective, a high-level swath would be: (1) pilot project in four regions (e.g., N.A., S.A., EMEA, Asia-Pacific)
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...we could find some high-profile partners
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...and if those are favorable, use those to drive additional adoption
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I'm sorry everyone, I have to run!
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IJ: could Amex take the lead on such a project?
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Ken: We would like to support the effort.
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...an effort should have both technical and business components
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...I mean the business component as directed toward the merchant
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:)
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...understanding pain points
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...big obstacle I've found is how to communicate it
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...it seems like w3c work requires a lot of pictures
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Unfortunately I have to head out to make next meeting… This is interesting. Would like to continue at our next chat
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Topic: next meeting?
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Proposed 24 Feb at 8am PT
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(an hour earlier than usual)
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Andrew: Agree with some of the challenges Ken cited, and articulating the story for the merchant
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https://github.com/w3c/payment-request-info/blob/master/README.md
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...we'd like to continue to help
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--
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Code examples
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User experience patterns
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Answers to common questions
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Implementation status
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Branding guidance
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Value proposition
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Andrew: For generating new stuff, I need to check internally
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Ken: I could see doing some trial runs (e.g., a few slides) and then testing them
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...people want simple, illustrated
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...questions like "how does this work with big merchants who already have a checkout button"
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...or "if merchants already have checkout buttons by contract, how does this work"?
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Andrew: I have heard similar questions to the ones Ken has raised
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...and also agree that different sized merchants have different questions
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...also have questions about promotions are applied.
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PROPOSED: Gather questions (and draft answers) from merchants (or senior managements)
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ACTION: Ken to gather some questions from merchants/others
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ACTION: Andrew to gather some questions from merhcants/others
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Created ACTION-51 - Gather some questions from merhcants/others [on Andrew Paliga - due 2017-02-17].
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IJ: Any other questions or thoughts?
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https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Adoption2017
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thanks all, bye!
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/10-wpwg-minutes.html Ian
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