IRC log of wpwg on 2017-01-19

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Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
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Ian has changed the topic to: 19 Jan 2017 agenda https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
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Meeting: Web Payments Working Group
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Chair: Ian
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Regrets+ NickTR
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regrets+ AdrianHB
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present+
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present+ Andre
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present+ mathieu
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present+ zkoch
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present+ rouslan
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present+ zkoch
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present+ max
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present+ Molly
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present+
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: Ian, Andre, mathieu, zkoch, rouslan, max, Molly, VincentK
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On IRC I see zkoch, rouslan, VincentK, alyver, Zakim, RRSAgent, Max, betehess, collier-matthew, schuki, oyiptong, nicktr, davidillsley_, adamR, manu, ShaneM, AdrianHB, slightlyoff,
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... mkwst, hyojin, JakeA, adrianba, emschwartz, Dongwoo, dlongley, dlehn, Ian, trackbot
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present+
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https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
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Topic: Next meetings
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next call is 26 Jan
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Please register for the FTF => https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83744/wpwg-201703/
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Do we want to plan for an additional FTF in 2017 before TPAC?
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(TPAC is 6-10 Nov in California)
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July FTF?
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..e.g, in Asia or Europe
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...any host volunteers?
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Alibaba hosting in China? :)
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AdamR: 17-21 July is IETF in Prague
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https://www.ietf.org/meeting/99/index.html
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present+ MattS
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topic: Sharing information about implementation and experimentation
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https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki#experimentation-and-implementation
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"
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Experimentation and Implementation"
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IJ: Please update or send info to me.
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IJ: Anybody here have stuff to link to?
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topic: Basic Card
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https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Networks-List
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Q. Should we move this to w3.org with more limited editing?
15:12:07 [zkoch]
+1 to w3.org
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...if so, I propose this URL https://www.w3.org/Payments/card-network-ids
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LGTM
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Q Has W3C management committed to long-term maintenance?
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A: Yes
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Q Is there any issue with strings that may be trademarked names?
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IJ; Awaiting feedback from Amex
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q+
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ack zkoch
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zkoch: Please create that URL and let's update the spec to reflect that.
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IJ: Support for that?
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+1
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zkoch: This is implemented in Chrome and Edge
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adamR: +1
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ACTION: Ian to create w3.org/Payments/card-network-ids
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'Ian' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ijacobs, ijmad).
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IJ: Any other expectations to set about how the list will change?
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: Ian, Andre, mathieu, zkoch, rouslan, max, Molly, VincentK, adamR, MattS
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topic: Checking on PR API
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IJ: Any issues need priority attention from the WPWG?
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zkoch: We are running through issues; we have closed some recently. I don't think there are any main ones for discussion right now
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...some things are small or updates to the spec text (e.g., from Boris feedback)
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..nothing controversial right now
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IJ: Please tee up tough questions for FTF meeting
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zkoch: Ok; by then we should have a smaller list
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IJ: Will the manifest spec change between now and the FTF meeting?
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https://w3c.github.io/webpayments/proposals/Payment-Manifest-Proposal.html
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q+
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IJ: Any update on HTTP Link header experimentation?
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IJ: I see payment method manifest as tools or proprietary payment method owners to say things about their method and app support.
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q-
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{IJ discusses state of payment app discussions}
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IJ: We don't have concept of payment app manifest file right now; just data from the payment app for the user agent.
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zkoch: What is the identifier for payment apps?
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IJ: I am distinguishing (as usual) payment methods and payment apps.
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gahhh
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i don’t think so
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i shall rejoin
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sigghh
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well, carry on, ill work on this
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zkoch: I am asking a simpler question - for web-based payment apps, is there a need still for the payment app manifest file?
15:41:37 [Max]
q+
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ack ma
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max: I want to say that the manifest file should support both native and web-based
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Ian: +1
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...the quesiton is how
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Max: Maybe we reuse Web manifest file
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IJ: Maybe origin information suffices; those are open conversations
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q?
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thanks! bye!
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-wpwg-minutes.html Ian
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—> demeaned
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