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14:57:29 <Ian> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
14:57:37 <Ian> Ian has changed the topic to: 19 Jan 2017 agenda https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
14:57:43 <Ian> Meeting: Web Payments Working Group
14:57:45 <Ian> Chair: Ian
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14:57:50 <Ian> Regrets+ NickTR
14:57:53 <Ian> regrets+ AdrianHB
14:57:59 <Ian> present+
14:58:49 <Ian> present+ Andre
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15:03:22 <Ian> present+ rouslan
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15:03:26 <Ian> present+ max
15:03:44 <Ian> present+ Molly
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15:04:05 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
15:04:05 <Zakim> Present: Ian, Andre, mathieu, zkoch, rouslan, max, Molly, VincentK
15:04:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see zkoch, rouslan, VincentK, alyver, Zakim, RRSAgent, Max, betehess, collier-matthew, schuki, oyiptong, nicktr, davidillsley_, adamR, manu, ShaneM, AdrianHB, slightlyoff,
15:04:07 <Zakim> ... mkwst, hyojin, JakeA, adrianba, emschwartz, Dongwoo, dlongley, dlehn, Ian, trackbot
15:04:24 <adamR> present+
15:04:34 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170119
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15:05:08 <Ian> Topic: Next meetings
15:05:13 <Ian> next call is 26 Jan
15:05:27 <Ian> Please register for the FTF => https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83744/wpwg-201703/
15:05:37 <Ian> Do we want to plan for an additional FTF in 2017 before TPAC?
15:06:08 <Ian> (TPAC is 6-10 Nov in California)
15:06:22 <Ian> July FTF?
15:06:55 <Ian> ..e.g, in Asia or Europe
15:07:16 <Ian> ...any host volunteers?
15:07:18 <zkoch> Alibaba hosting in China? :)
15:07:36 <Ian> AdamR: 17-21 July is IETF in Prague
15:08:12 <Ian> https://www.ietf.org/meeting/99/index.html
15:08:21 <Ian> present+ MattS
15:08:43 <Ian> topic: Sharing information about implementation and experimentation
15:08:53 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki#experimentation-and-implementation
15:09:08 <Ian> "
15:09:08 <Ian> Experimentation and Implementation"
15:09:51 <Ian> IJ: Please update or send info to me.
15:10:02 <Ian> IJ: Anybody here have stuff to link to?
15:10:33 <Ian> topic: Basic Card
15:10:43 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Networks-List
15:11:25 <Ian> Q. Should we move this to w3.org with more limited editing?
15:12:07 <zkoch> +1 to w3.org
15:12:10 <Ian> ...if so, I propose this URL https://www.w3.org/Payments/card-network-ids
15:12:26 <zkoch> LGTM
15:12:39 <Ian> Q Has W3C management committed to long-term maintenance?
15:12:52 <Ian> A: Yes
15:13:04 <Ian> Q Is there any issue with strings that may be trademarked names?
15:13:11 <Ian> IJ; Awaiting feedback from Amex
15:13:22 <zkoch> q+
15:13:32 <Ian> ack zkoch
15:14:07 <Ian> zkoch: Please create that URL and let's update the spec to reflect that.
15:14:23 <Ian> IJ: Support for that?
15:14:25 <rouslan> +1
15:14:44 <Ian> zkoch: This is implemented in Chrome and Edge
15:14:53 <Ian> adamR: +1
15:15:19 <Ian> ACTION: Ian to create w3.org/Payments/card-network-ids
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15:16:27 <Ian> IJ: Any other expectations to set about how the list will change?
15:16:50 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
15:16:50 <Zakim> Present: Ian, Andre, mathieu, zkoch, rouslan, max, Molly, VincentK, adamR, MattS
15:16:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see mathp, MattS, zkoch, rouslan, VincentK, alyver, Zakim, RRSAgent, Max, betehess, collier-matthew, schuki, oyiptong, nicktr, davidillsley_, adamR, manu, ShaneM,
15:16:53 <Zakim> ... AdrianHB, slightlyoff, mkwst, hyojin, JakeA, adrianba, emschwartz, Dongwoo, dlongley, dlehn, Ian, trackbot
15:17:11 <Ian> topic: Checking on PR API
15:17:28 <Ian> IJ: Any issues need priority attention from the WPWG?
15:18:04 <Ian> zkoch: We are running through issues; we have closed some recently. I don't think there are any main ones for discussion right now
15:18:18 <Ian> ...some things are small or updates to the spec text (e.g., from Boris feedback)
15:18:24 <Ian> ..nothing controversial right now
15:18:47 <Ian> IJ: Please tee up tough questions for FTF meeting
15:19:00 <Ian> zkoch: Ok; by then we should have a smaller list
15:19:44 <Ian> IJ: Will the manifest spec change between now and the FTF meeting?
15:21:05 <Ian> https://w3c.github.io/webpayments/proposals/Payment-Manifest-Proposal.html
15:21:38 <rouslan> q+
15:22:03 <Ian> IJ: Any update on HTTP Link header experimentation?
15:22:32 <Ian> IJ: I see payment method manifest as tools or proprietary payment method owners to say things about their method and app support.
15:22:50 <rouslan> q-
15:26:18 <Ian> {IJ discusses state of payment app discussions}
15:26:49 <Ian> IJ: We don't have concept of payment app manifest file right now; just data from the payment app for the user agent.
15:27:24 <Ian> zkoch: What is the identifier for payment apps?
15:31:32 <Ian> IJ: I am distinguishing (as usual) payment methods and payment apps.
15:31:41 <zkoch> gahhh
15:31:43 <zkoch> i don’t think so
15:31:49 <zkoch> i shall rejoin
15:32:50 <zkoch> sigghh
15:32:57 <zkoch> well, carry on, ill work on this
15:33:45 <Ian> zkoch: I am asking a simpler question - for web-based payment apps, is there a need still for the payment app manifest file?
15:41:37 <Max> q+
15:42:05 <Ian> ack ma
15:42:24 <Ian> max: I want to say that the manifest file should support both native and web-based
15:42:30 <Ian> Ian: +1
15:42:34 <Ian> ...the quesiton is how
15:42:50 <Ian> Max: Maybe we reuse Web manifest file
15:44:06 <Ian> IJ: Maybe origin information suffices; those are open conversations
15:44:56 <Ian> q?
15:45:11 <zkoch> thanks! bye!
15:45:14 <Ian> rrsagent, make minutes
15:45:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-wpwg-minutes.html Ian
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