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Arabic layout task force meeting

13 Dec 2016

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Behnam, Shervin, r12a, mostafa
Regrets
Chair
behnam
Scribe
Shervin

Contents


<scribe> ScribeNick: Shervin

behnam: Starting from Mostafa's survey of more fonts using underline

<mostafa> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86

mostafa: It appears that each browser have a different behaviour...
... But the same behavior is repeated across different fonts.
... So Chrome is underline without change
... Different behaviour of Firefox might be due to a feature of the fonts
... I guess that might be due to putting the underline at the base line or at the descender line

Shervin: Safari behavior of skipping looks odd

behnam: The only difference between that and Chrome is skipping
... skipping works fine with Latin and many prefer it

r12a: We need to say what should the behavior be

behnam: We need to collect some samples from movable type prints

<mostafa> +1

Shervin: Will provide a report of my research in manuscripts regarding using underline and overline

behnam: I've seen usage of overline for quotation

<behnam> ACTION behnam to investigate unerline/overline usage in movabletype

<trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Investigate unerline/overline usage in movabletype [on Behnam Esfahbod - due 2016-12-20].

behnam: Need to look at commonly used software suites like MS Word or legacy Zarnegar

<mostafa> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/FullSizeRender.jpg

<behnam> ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from old magazines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Collect evidence of underline from old magazines [on Mostafa Hajizadeh - due 2016-12-20].

mostafa: I can do a survey of older magazine from Iran regarding underline usage

r12a: Seems like the letters are not completely joined and there is a gap, is this intentional?

mostafa: Most likely this is due a technical issue in the movable type. As this behaviour is not seen in typesetting of ads.

<mostafa> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/IMG_0060.JPG

r12a: The dropcase looks very interesting. There are also other interesting things in this image

behnam: The transition to chevron for quotation seems something recent; turn of the century or around that time.
... Moving on to other items on the agenda.

<behnam> https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open?sort=owner

behnam: Looking at the action items...

Shervin: Regarding transliteration, I'd prefer to be able to bulk transliterate

r12a: The tool can be passed 300 lines of text to transliterate

<r12a> http://rishida.io/pickers/persian/

r12a: We don't need to add as many diacritics as for Arabic for Persian
... We need to check the transliteration rules are useful
... the run it and then correct the issues
... add short vowels....

behnam: Regarding ACTION-75, bidi specification of arabic vs. persian numerals
... there are some information regarding use of punctuation marks with numbers and I recall some discussion on the mailing list

Shervin: We need to get to a recorded account of this behaviour from source.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from old magazines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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