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<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Mike_Pluke
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
Action for Mike tp review coverage of the ISO document to look for gaps. Mike will do for next Monday.
<trackbot> Error finding 'for'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
Janina action point - maybe just a formatting exercise
Review FCC White Paper - Mike has not, but Mary Jo has and says it is just an overview and not as detailed as our work. - Closed
Copy editing - a big thank you to everyone for drafting, reviewing of SCs and the copywriting team - Jan, Jim, John Rochford and Thadeus were super busy and effective.
Identifying new user needs (table) is still something that should be done.
Needs: Support for personalization etc. need to be identified and fits in with our roadmap.
Phase 2 - user needs - should we be looking at emotional disabilities.
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Thadd and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Thadd'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Thaddeus Cambron and Jan and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Cambron and jan and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities [on Thaddeus Cambron - due 2016-12-12].
User research related to things such as Help may need to be persued.
Research Module for emotional disabilities (2 part)
Phase 2 issue papers on Ethics, testing and bots
John Rochford working on indoor navigation and other John working on outdoor navigation.
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: John_R and John_K issue paper on navigation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-minutes.html#action03]
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<Lisa_Seeman> action Lisa to draft phase to proposal
<trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Draft phase to proposal [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-12].
Probably will need to review things that are not fully accepted in Phase 1 - for potential inclusion in Phase 2
1) SUpportive material (e.g. FAQ) - 2) making semantics easier - ned to be worked on.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/COGA-FAQ
Mike suggests that when we have similar success criteria that differ in their scope we could amend the titles to put the key scope differences in brackets at the end of the title
<Jan> +1 to mention something about situational cognitive disabilities under stressful situations, etc.
Agree to sending the FAQ to WCAG now, and clarify that it is a work in progress.
<Jan> +1 to submitting FAQs to WCAG because it's going to be a work in progress
FAQs useful to point people to if they ask a typical question that we have already addressed.
A series of videos about user needs as a possibility to introduce in January (via Neil and the education outreach group0. Maybe also BBC videos and ask the team if they want to make more.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/nov/11/autism-in-the-workplace-an-opportunity-not-a-drawback
<Lisa_Seeman> Anna forest
John Kirkwood "People in NYC who might be interested" - will reach out to them
Test criteria - APIs and personalization semantics that should make things easier
<Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
<Lisa_Seeman> need: prersonlization settings
User need tables have specified all the things we need from the user needs perspective but need personalization settings standardised
Also need implementation - important for W3C process
<Lisa_Seeman> specifcations at a working draft
<Lisa_Seeman> implations
An interesting VR experience of sensory overload for an autistic chid at: http://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/tmi/virtual.aspx (not ICT specific - put powerful)
<Lisa_Seeman> https://github.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation
Browser extension - script project already made - but not in line with what we have now - might be a candidate for an extension
<Lisa_Seeman> implention as an extention, or websites using
<EA> So sorry keep losing connection will use minutes to keep up.
Getting something like this actually used would greatly increase the traction in getting things accepted. Does this need a separate sub-group.
John Rochford - A demonstration of an online course related to people with intellectual disabilities - could incorporate the personalization stuff into the course activity.
John Rochford and John Kirkwood interested in trying to get things developed.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
Could do with implementation on the Interruptions Matrix and the Log into breadcrumbs
Jan needs to look at the COGA personalisation work to see how it fits in with what she is doing - looking towards possible implementation.
Browser and operating system guidance could be something that is needed.
Conformance testing - what should it look like is something else that might be needed.
Although W3C doesn't implement - we need to be describe things that are implementable.
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Open_Issues
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Lisa to tiedy up issue page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Tiedy up issue page [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-12].
Nobody is working on meta data - would turn into techniques - need an Issue Paper?
Need to improve existing metadata issue paper
<Lisa_Seeman> resolutions: changes to sc that do not reduce the extent to which the user need is adressed cna be done without taskfource cocnent
<Lisa_Seeman> +1
<janina> +1
<Jim_S> +1
+1
<Jan> +1
<maryjom> +1
<Lisa_Seeman> John Kirkwood +1
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