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18:04:03 <jamesn> TOPIC: Status
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18:05:43 <jamesn> TOPIC: PR 163 - Menu Button
18:05:44 <jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/163
18:06:43 <jamesn> MK: found there were 521 code format errors
18:08:43 <jamesn> JN: not sure I agree with the spacing rule
18:11:52 <jamesn> MK: lets go through some of the rules
18:12:12 <jamesn> MK: some other things that need to be fixed - and some which were not automatically fixable
18:12:59 <jamesn> TOPIC: #164 - https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/164
18:14:27 <jamesn> MK: changed names of files - moved to sub directories
18:16:39 <jamesn> TOPIC: Radio Button PR
18:17:28 <jamesn> JG: updating code to be consistent
18:17:54 <jamesn> JG: each thing has its own constructor - goal is to help people understand what they want to do
18:18:16 <jamesn> JG: the code being readable and understandable is important\
18:18:32 <jamesn> JG: pretty much the same at runtime
18:18:47 <jamesn> JG: don't understand what the format is for keyboard information
18:19:28 <jamesn> 4th PR is updating the links
18:20:47 <jamesn> Jemma: the last minute change was submenu items... I added sub-sub-menu items
18:21:12 <jamesn> we are working on the focus management for the sub sub menu items. almost done with focus managemnt for these
18:25:48 <jamesn> MK: action item about menu orientations etc.
18:26:06 <jamesn> JG: when on a menu item with a popup. space will just toggle the display of the submenu
18:26:17 <jamesn> MK: should do the same as right arrow
18:26:22 <jamesn> activate the menu'
18:27:57 <jamesn> Jemma: in terms of schedule - can create the PRs - can do a final review.... I will miss meeting next monday
18:29:12 <jamesn> menu item has had scope creep i think
18:29:25 <jamesn> MK: I agree - should have had that in the examples
18:31:14 <jamesn> TOPIC: keyboard subsection of the coding template
18:31:51 <jamesn> table or list'
18:32:35 <jemma> s/menu items/sub-sub menuitems/
18:32:40 <jamesn> MK: Q? how important is the consitency
18:33:10 <jamesn> JG: we have a list of functions - sometimes if a key does more than 1 thing then can see things easier
18:34:18 <jamesn> JN: do not think it is a showstopper
18:38:19 <jamesn> resolved - use table in the future
18:39:36 <jamesn> TOPIC: roles states and properties subsection of the template
18:40:26 <jamesn> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/listbox/listbox.html
18:42:32 <jamesn> MK: used the word attribute specifically so could include tabindex
18:43:24 <jamesn> 3rd column would contain (eventually) appropriate links to the main document. So places where use roaming tabindex and activedescendent etc. would have links to things in main document
18:47:20 <jamesn> MK: maybe fix up the old ones to this format later - before next release
18:47:27 <jongund> https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/menu-button/examples/menu-button/menu-button-1/menu-button-1.html
18:47:34 <jamesn> MK: JG - are you ok with futre work being in this format
18:50:36 <jamesn> JG: got info about the properties and states associated with that role
18:53:59 <jemma> I also like Jon's template since it has separate section for "property/state", not mixed with "role" section.
18:54:53 <jemma> why don't we allow two templates depending on examples?
18:57:07 <jemma> actually, I found it is hard to write everything in "usage" in Matt's template
18:59:16 <jamesn> MK: can move into a 1 per page format
19:00:01 <jamesn> all: note listbox page isn't actually working
19:14:17 <jamesn> go with JG format - in the role column just go with the role, 2nd column is attribute column, element column and usage solumn
19:14:31 <jamesn> attribute column is attribute and value
19:16:06 <jamesn> focus is not to fix everything in existence, except where we have already agreed on things
19:16:21 <jamesn> adjust as working on things
19:32:27 <jamesn> MK: going to fix .jscsrc
19:32:38 <jamesn> in order to allow varuious spacing
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