See also: IRC log
need CfC from ARIA and DPub IG
now targeting 29 Nov for CR
of DPub Roles
(DPub AAM for Jan, along with the other AAMs)
no updates
jd: Joanie´s ATTA working
not yet merged
need to address a11y events
back-and-forth with Shane
Rich has held off on testable statements, probably will return to that after his
Jon working on IA2
JD still needs to work on AXAPI ATTA
hope we can start doing meaningful testing in Dec
still need to get it all merged and put into WPT
<jemma> aria testing meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-aria-test-minutes.html
can still do manual testing
mc: but that might impact timeline :(
-> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/ HTML 5.1
input element
maxlength / minlength
-> https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/ HTML-AAM editors draft
jn: does it truncate?
mc: yes, possibly
do we need this for equivalent user experience?
jn, jd: no
js: in HTML-AAM, is not mapped
@size
no need for ARIA
@readonly, @required covered
@mulitple
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-multiple-attribute
<jamesn> i could see it being useful for something like this http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/jet/jetCookbook.html?component=select&demo=multi
may need this
issue 470 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/470
@pattern
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-pattern-attribute
no need
@min and @max
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-min-and-max-attributes
correspond to @aria-valuemin and @aria-valuemax
jd: HTML AAM needs to address these
@step
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-step-attribute
<clown> issue-539
<trackbot> issue-539 -- aria-valuestep -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/539
GH-ISSUE 471 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/471
@list
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-list-attribute
jd: could map to combobox but might be bad
or could map to autocomplete
maybe it´s like aria-haspopup
<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/html-aam/master/#att-list
GH-ISSUE 472 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/472
@placeholder
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute
covered
<button>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-button-element
covered
<select>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-select-element
covered
<datalist>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-datalist-element
jd: popup list
deal with on @list action
note added to GH-ISSUE 472
<optgroup>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-optgroup-element
js: using group role for now
GH-ISSUE 473 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/473
<option>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-option-element
covered
<textarea>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-textarea-element
covered (text aria-multiline)
<keygen>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-keygen-element
being removed, so don´t bother
<output>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-output-element
js: mapping to a live region
no need to map
probably - unless something comes our way during HTML-AAM work
<progress>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-progress-element
covered
<meter>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-meter-element
we have GH-ISSUE 451 already https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/451
<fieldset>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-fieldset-element
covered by group or radiogroup
<legend>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-legend-element
covered
== moving on to grouping elements ==
<p>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-p-element
GH-ISSUE 474 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/474
<hr>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-hr-element
covered
<pre>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-pre-element
GH-ISSUE 475 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/475
<blockquote>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-blockquote-element
GH-ISSUE 476 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/476
<ol>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-ol-element
<ul>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-ul-element
jd: we have list, but do we need to distinguish the types?
jn: not sure we need
the bullet / number gets exposed to AT
jd: have seen lists with no indicators
had to use heuristics
mc: can´t count on indicator in ARIA
jn: in which case also sighted users don´t have
jd: there are layout lists and list lists
let´s not tackle this problem for now
<li>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-li-element
covered
<dl>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dl-element
<dt>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dt-element
<dd>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dd-element
<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#term
<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#term
<joanie> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#definition
<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#definition
<figure>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-figure-element
<figcaption>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-figcaption-element
both covered
<main>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-main-element
covered
<div>
https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-div-element
GH-ISSUE 478 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/478
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