IRC log of privacy on 2016-11-03
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- 15:44:31 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-privacy-irc
- 15:46:42 [keiji]
- Meeting: PING 2016 Nov 3rd (Monthly Meeting for October)
- 15:47:16 [keiji]
- RRSagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-privacy-minutes.html keiji
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- RRSAgent, make logs team
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- present+
- 15:55:07 [keiji]
- agenda:https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
- 15:55:43 [keiji]
- agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
- 15:57:25 [weiler]
- present+
- 15:58:19 [tara]
- present+
- 15:59:11 [adrianba]
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- 16:00:35 [christine]
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- 16:00:49 [tara]
- Giving people a few minutes to join...
- 16:01:17 [npdoty]
- present+ npdoty
- 16:02:03 [tara]
- May be true, yes!
- 16:02:04 [christine]
- Hi. I can't seem to get on to webex. Let me try again.
- 16:02:14 [tara]
- Fingers crossed...
- 16:02:53 [npdoty]
- agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
- 16:03:23 [keiji]
- https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m3d677d065fb1de94abe7949fe027b5a4
- 16:03:35 [christine]
- Made it
- 16:06:13 [wseltzer]
- present+ wseltzer
- 16:07:49 [tara]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0003.html
- 16:08:01 [tara]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0015.html
- 16:09:27 [tara]
- Audio Output Device deadline - Nov 11.
- 16:09:39 [npdoty]
- and has received some substantial responses on the mailing list already
- 16:09:53 [npdoty]
- no specific deadline expressed yet re: Web Payments and user consent
- 16:10:10 [adrianba]
- I don't think we have a specific deadline
- 16:10:16 [npdoty]
- tara will follow up with Web Payments
- 16:10:18 [adrianba]
- other than we're trying to lock down the spec for CR
- 16:10:30 [npdoty]
- adrianba, just general guidance about a timeline then would be useful
- 16:10:40 [npdoty]
- as in, this month? next quarter?
- 16:10:49 [adrianba]
- we were aiming to review getting to CR around now-ish
- 16:11:12 [adrianba]
- but we still have some technical things to look at
- 16:11:48 [npdoty]
- next call December 1?
- 16:13:46 [christine]
- great
- 16:14:54 [adrianba]
- npdoty, I think it would be helpful to cross of the user consent issue this quarter
- 16:15:24 [adrianba]
- having been involved in a group where user consent caused a few issues, my preference is that we don't try going to far down the road of defining it :)
- 16:16:04 [keiji]
- RRSagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-privacy-minutes.html keiji
- 16:16:19 [npdoty]
- adrianba, have you gotten useful feedback in the thread on the public-privacy list?
- 16:17:13 [keiji]
- chair: tara
- 16:17:21 [keiji]
- RRSagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-privacy-minutes.html keiji
- 16:17:29 [christine]
- ?quit
- 16:17:57 [adrianba]
- not really, it was pretty generic and seemingly without a real appreciation for the way the API works
- 16:18:09 [keiji]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 16:19:35 [adrianba]
- in the spec, we say that user consent is required before sharing user's information with a site
- 16:19:56 [adrianba]
- then we're proposing text to say that we don't define precisely what user consent needs to look like from a UX perspective
- 16:20:03 [adrianba]
- this is the text we were looking for feedback on
- 16:21:45 [npdoty]
- I think sometimes reviewers don't like looking only at a single section if they think issues are more holistic
- 16:22:24 [adrianba]
- sure, but if you do that then you need to review the interactions in the spec and provide concrete feedback with the appropriate context
- 16:22:28 [adrianba]
- I don't object to that
- 16:22:41 [adrianba]
- but high level generic feedback doesn't help us make progress unfortunately
- 16:22:55 [keiji]
- npdoty yes
- 16:23:05 [npdoty]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 16:23:05 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items