IRC log of privacy on 2016-11-03

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15:46:42 [keiji]
Meeting: PING 2016 Nov 3rd (Monthly Meeting for October)
15:47:16 [keiji]
RRSagent, make minutes
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15:47:23 [keiji]
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present+
15:55:07 [keiji]
agenda:https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
15:55:43 [keiji]
agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
15:57:25 [weiler]
present+
15:58:19 [tara]
present+
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16:00:49 [tara]
Giving people a few minutes to join...
16:01:17 [npdoty]
present+ npdoty
16:02:03 [tara]
May be true, yes!
16:02:04 [christine]
Hi. I can't seem to get on to webex. Let me try again.
16:02:14 [tara]
Fingers crossed...
16:02:53 [npdoty]
agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
16:03:23 [keiji]
https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m3d677d065fb1de94abe7949fe027b5a4
16:03:35 [christine]
Made it
16:06:13 [wseltzer]
present+ wseltzer
16:07:49 [tara]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0003.html
16:08:01 [tara]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0015.html
16:09:27 [tara]
Audio Output Device deadline - Nov 11.
16:09:39 [npdoty]
and has received some substantial responses on the mailing list already
16:09:53 [npdoty]
no specific deadline expressed yet re: Web Payments and user consent
16:10:10 [adrianba]
I don't think we have a specific deadline
16:10:16 [npdoty]
tara will follow up with Web Payments
16:10:18 [adrianba]
other than we're trying to lock down the spec for CR
16:10:30 [npdoty]
adrianba, just general guidance about a timeline then would be useful
16:10:40 [npdoty]
as in, this month? next quarter?
16:10:49 [adrianba]
we were aiming to review getting to CR around now-ish
16:11:12 [adrianba]
but we still have some technical things to look at
16:11:48 [npdoty]
next call December 1?
16:13:46 [christine]
great
16:14:54 [adrianba]
npdoty, I think it would be helpful to cross of the user consent issue this quarter
16:15:24 [adrianba]
having been involved in a group where user consent caused a few issues, my preference is that we don't try going to far down the road of defining it :)
16:16:04 [keiji]
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16:16:19 [npdoty]
adrianba, have you gotten useful feedback in the thread on the public-privacy list?
16:17:13 [keiji]
chair: tara
16:17:21 [keiji]
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-privacy-minutes.html keiji
16:17:29 [christine]
?quit
16:17:57 [adrianba]
not really, it was pretty generic and seemingly without a real appreciation for the way the API works
16:18:09 [keiji]
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16:19:35 [adrianba]
in the spec, we say that user consent is required before sharing user's information with a site
16:19:56 [adrianba]
then we're proposing text to say that we don't define precisely what user consent needs to look like from a UX perspective
16:20:03 [adrianba]
this is the text we were looking for feedback on
16:21:45 [npdoty]
I think sometimes reviewers don't like looking only at a single section if they think issues are more holistic
16:22:24 [adrianba]
sure, but if you do that then you need to review the interactions in the spec and provide concrete feedback with the appropriate context
16:22:28 [adrianba]
I don't object to that
16:22:41 [adrianba]
but high level generic feedback doesn't help us make progress unfortunately
16:22:55 [keiji]
npdoty yes
16:23:05 [npdoty]
RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items