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<scribe> scribenick: Jacob
<TimCole> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Minutes of the previous call are approved: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/30-annotation-minutes.html
RESOLUTION: Minutes of the previous call are approved: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/30-annotation-minutes.html
TimCole: (crickets)
TimCole: a lot of editorial items have been cleaned up, was also the rights issue
azaroth: completed all of the
non-internationalization issues after last week's call
... getting to the last outstanding issue this afternoon
... rights issue, doesn't need any changes or clarification
... question revolving around "what is an annotation? how can rights be
added to it?"
TimCole: an example has been given, not sure what else we can add to it
ivan: also updated the content of the vocab
and context documents
... should be up to date wrt the editorial changes
... were some problems with the initial internaitonalization report
... think that those have been addressed, not certain if a new report
has been generated
TimCole: regarding rights question, leave open for another week?
ivan: leave open for now, wait for Benjamin
to answer
... (internationalization) -- at the same level, when ready to move on
... to final editorial rounds, then can send a note saying that we
intend to close the issue
... worth looking at one or two editorial issues from Richard
azaroth: #348 started with a simple change, then expanded
<TimCole> https://github.com/w3c/web-annotation/issues/348
azaroth: suggestion is to use a unicode concept, but we're trying not to use unicode as a basis
TimCole: we had talked about inviting him to a call
ivan: invitation to Richard should come from one of the chairs
azaroth: traveling next week
<ShaneM> I will not be on the call on the 28th - meetings in CA
TimCole: invite Richard for the meeting on
the 28th (of October)
... resolve internaitonalization issue
... should connect via email to work through issue as much as possible
beforehand
<TimCole> qq?
TimCole: before the call started, was
talking to Dinesh about his implementation
... anyone else want to talk about implementations?
... still worried that bodyValue isn't implemented by enough
implementations
... what happens if a not-at-risk property isn't used, wrt exiting CR
ivan: shouldn't have an effect
... do we have any knowledge of anyone using it
... we should ask and document that no one is using it before removing
it
azaroth: wasn't in the CG model, so would
have to be a new implementation
... need to find out if anyone is using, but should be easy to validate
via the list
TimCole: still haven't heard from Europeana
... if tests are in shape then Rob can talk to them when he's there
... examples of annotation collections in Rob's implementation
... will be able to test them as soon as that test is ready
... anyone else's implementations we're trying to work with for testing
ShaneM: Europeana, already in the test results folder
<ivan> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/annotation-model/all.html
<azaroth> https://github.com/w3c/test-results/tree/gh-pages/annotation-model
ivan: Europeana not listed in the testing report
TimCole: any other implementers?
<ShaneM> I neglected to push the updated report for some reason
azaroth: trying to get Pundit to test their's
<ShaneM> it is up on the server now
TimCole: vocab testing, need to make sure that Greg reads the report, then we're done
<ShaneM> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/annotation-model/all.html
azaroth: bug for the onto extraction from the vocab
ivan: need a report on protocol from Europeana
<tbdinesh> https://github.com/w3c/test-results/blob/gh-pages/annotation-model/EF-input/anno11.json is using bodyvalue
ShaneM: don't think they've done it yet
... still need to make changes to the report generator
TimCole: Rob has an action to clean up an
issue with the ontology
... open issues on protocol testing?
... Tim has an action on model testing to get the collections (and
other) testing in place
... after that's done, will have to go back address any fails in
mandatory tests to
... determine if they're fails in the test or fails in the
implementation
... then report rollup
<ShaneM> Implementing the "rollup" is pretty simple I think. I just need a free hour.
TimCole: Dinesh pointed out that one of the Europeana tests uses bodyValue, so that issue may go away afterall
ivan: once all testing, etc., is done, then republish the document and done
TimCole: should rerun tests once the schemas are fixed, but should also notify the implementers
<ShaneM> I am fine with that
ivan: minor issue, good if at the director's
call, if we provide details for who will manage
... errata, can plug in the community group, restart a new community
group to do that, need clear idea of how to handle errata
TimCole: broader issue (looking forward) --
start a new community group, tap into the old community group
... who to manage / maintain the products of the CR
... should be something the WG discusses
azaroth: shouldn't create new group, just go back to existing group
TimCole: can pole them to see if any objectors, should expect some change in membership over time
ivan: need to set up the fundamentals of who
will manage errata
... have a plan
TimCole: that will be a topic for one of the next meetings
<ShaneM> I like this one: https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDFa_1.1._Errata
TimCole: should try to make sure Paolo is available in capacity as co-chair (with Rob) of CG
ivan: question, when will html note be ready? need Rob to look at selector note
TimCole: another topic for future meetings,
but may be able to switch to biweekly schedule
... other topics? do we need to interact with other WGs?
... Tim has an internationalization call and a notes call as the future
calls for this WG
... other business?
... adjourne
<ivan> trackbot, end telcon