IRC log of aria-editors on 2016-10-05
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- meeting: ARIA Editors
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- chair: MichaelC
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- scribe: MichaelC
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- regrets: Michiel_Bijl, Joanmarie_Diggs
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- agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2016Oct/0000.html
- 16:58:02 [MichaelC]
- agenda+ Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project
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- agenda+ Repository split progress and next steps
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- agenda+ Copyright for code samples
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- agenda+ AOB
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- agenda+ Next Meeting
- 16:59:43 [Rich]
- present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
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- 17:01:46 [ShaneM]
- present + ShaneM
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- present+ Tzviya
- 17:02:31 [MichaelC]
- present+ MichaelC, Rich
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- present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
- 17:06:40 [MichaelC]
- agenda?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1. "Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- PLH will hold us accountable to the schedule we publish
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- the above is what he´s using
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- ARIA 1.1 seems on track for Oct CR
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- but the AAMs not
- 17:09:39 [ShaneM]
- q+ about testing and naming
- 17:09:47 [ShaneM]
- q+ to talk about testing and naming
- 17:09:48 [MichaelC]
- so the core AAMs would be ready for CR by Jan
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- need MS to get back to us
- 17:10:54 [ShaneM]
- q?
- 17:11:02 [MichaelC]
- including Core, AccName, DPub
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- Graphics and SVG might be ok with Feb
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- q+
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- ack s
- 17:11:38 [Zakim]
- ShaneM, you wanted to talk about testing and naming
- 17:11:40 [MichaelC]
- q+ to talk about risk
- 17:12:53 [MichaelC]
- <Rich, Joseph, Shane trading branch edits>
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- drives testing
- 17:13:30 [tzviya]
- q+ to ask if rich has merged the dpub and dpub-aam changes
- 17:13:48 [MichaelC]
- AccName has nothing significant
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- though clearer
- 17:14:00 [MichaelC]
- q+ to mention backwards testig
- 17:15:08 [MichaelC]
- we might want to redo 1.0 testing
- 17:15:24 [MichaelC]
- there are 1.0 tests that impact naming that we should migrate to the automated test suite
- 17:15:38 [MichaelC]
- it´s a bit complex to tease them out
- 17:16:54 [MichaelC]
- ack t
- 17:16:54 [Zakim]
- tzviya, you wanted to ask if rich has merged the dpub and dpub-aam changes
- 17:17:37 [clown]
- actually, ShaneM, go here, and look for "name": https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1
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- or better, "accessible name"
- 17:17:55 [Rich]
- http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
- 17:18:12 [clown]
- and, sometimes, "accname"
- 17:18:30 [Rich]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html
- 17:18:37 [MichaelC]
- DPub and DPub AAM merged
- 17:19:18 [MichaelC]
- personalization semantics still need to set a timeline
- 17:20:27 [MichaelC]
- not much to implement, but need some review; MC to draft an update
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- Practices? nobody here
- 17:21:13 [MichaelC]
- zakim, next item
- 17:21:13 [Zakim]
- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, MichaelC
- 17:21:16 [MichaelC]
- ack me
- 17:21:16 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to talk about risk and to mention backwards testig
- 17:23:03 [ShaneM]
- We want all of these tests to be part of the automation framework. these tests make ARIA a first class citizen
- 17:23:55 [MichaelC]
- we should make sure we know what´s at risk
- 17:24:03 [MichaelC]
- should redo 1.0 tests for completeness testing
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- hope to avoid for CR exit
- 17:24:18 [ShaneM]
- (my team has an action to convert these tests)
- 17:24:20 [MichaelC]
- if we find things failing now that passed before, should look at for uture work
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "Repository split progress and next steps" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 17:25:02 [MichaelC]
- Have split out CSS-AAM and HTML-AAM
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- ready to do others, just need to sync black out times
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- DPub stuff could be migrated now
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- maybe graphics next
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- CSS-AAM now at https://github.com/w3c/css-aam
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- HTML-AAM now at https://github.com/w3c/html-aam
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- xrefs not working
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- may need to use subrepository
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- MC to experiment on CSS-AAM
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "Copyright for code samples" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- to circle back, mainly for practices but want a coordinated approach
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- MC to approach legal team
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "AOB" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- none
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 5. Next Meeting [from MichaelC]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- Next meeting is 19 October 2016 at 1:00 pm Boston time
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