IRC log of aria-editors on 2016-10-05

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16:57:46 [MichaelC]
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16:57:48 [MichaelC]
meeting: ARIA Editors
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chair: MichaelC
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scribe: MichaelC
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scribeOptions: -final
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regrets: Michiel_Bijl, Joanmarie_Diggs
16:58:00 [MichaelC]
agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2016Oct/0000.html
16:58:02 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project
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agenda+ Repository split progress and next steps
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agenda+ Copyright for code samples
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agenda+ AOB
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agenda+ Next Meeting
16:59:43 [Rich]
present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
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17:01:46 [ShaneM]
present + ShaneM
17:02:20 [tzviya]
present+ Tzviya
17:02:31 [MichaelC]
present+ MichaelC, Rich
17:04:22 [clown]
present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:06:40 [MichaelC]
agenda?
17:06:57 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
17:06:57 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:08:29 [MichaelC]
PLH will hold us accountable to the schedule we publish
17:08:37 [MichaelC]
the above is what he´s using
17:08:43 [MichaelC]
ARIA 1.1 seems on track for Oct CR
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but the AAMs not
17:09:39 [ShaneM]
q+ about testing and naming
17:09:47 [ShaneM]
q+ to talk about testing and naming
17:09:48 [MichaelC]
so the core AAMs would be ready for CR by Jan
17:10:41 [MichaelC]
need MS to get back to us
17:10:54 [ShaneM]
q?
17:11:02 [MichaelC]
including Core, AccName, DPub
17:11:18 [MichaelC]
Graphics and SVG might be ok with Feb
17:11:33 [MichaelC]
q+
17:11:38 [MichaelC]
ack s
17:11:38 [Zakim]
ShaneM, you wanted to talk about testing and naming
17:11:40 [MichaelC]
q+ to talk about risk
17:12:53 [MichaelC]
<Rich, Joseph, Shane trading branch edits>
17:12:55 [MichaelC]
drives testing
17:13:30 [tzviya]
q+ to ask if rich has merged the dpub and dpub-aam changes
17:13:48 [MichaelC]
AccName has nothing significant
17:13:51 [MichaelC]
though clearer
17:14:00 [MichaelC]
q+ to mention backwards testig
17:15:08 [MichaelC]
we might want to redo 1.0 testing
17:15:24 [MichaelC]
there are 1.0 tests that impact naming that we should migrate to the automated test suite
17:15:38 [MichaelC]
it´s a bit complex to tease them out
17:16:54 [MichaelC]
ack t
17:16:54 [Zakim]
tzviya, you wanted to ask if rich has merged the dpub and dpub-aam changes
17:17:37 [clown]
actually, ShaneM, go here, and look for "name": https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1
17:17:47 [clown]
or better, "accessible name"
17:17:55 [Rich]
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
17:18:12 [clown]
and, sometimes, "accname"
17:18:30 [Rich]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html
17:18:37 [MichaelC]
DPub and DPub AAM merged
17:19:18 [MichaelC]
personalization semantics still need to set a timeline
17:20:27 [MichaelC]
not much to implement, but need some review; MC to draft an update
17:20:58 [MichaelC]
Practices? nobody here
17:21:13 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
17:21:13 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, MichaelC
17:21:16 [MichaelC]
ack me
17:21:16 [Zakim]
MichaelC, you wanted to talk about risk and to mention backwards testig
17:23:03 [ShaneM]
We want all of these tests to be part of the automation framework. these tests make ARIA a first class citizen
17:23:55 [MichaelC]
we should make sure we know what´s at risk
17:24:03 [MichaelC]
should redo 1.0 tests for completeness testing
17:24:06 [MichaelC]
hope to avoid for CR exit
17:24:18 [ShaneM]
(my team has an action to convert these tests)
17:24:20 [MichaelC]
if we find things failing now that passed before, should look at for uture work
17:24:46 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2. "Repository split progress and next steps" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:25:02 [MichaelC]
Have split out CSS-AAM and HTML-AAM
17:25:55 [MichaelC]
ready to do others, just need to sync black out times
17:26:17 [MichaelC]
DPub stuff could be migrated now
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17:27:05 [MichaelC]
maybe graphics next
17:27:08 [MichaelC]
CSS-AAM now at https://github.com/w3c/css-aam
17:27:14 [MichaelC]
HTML-AAM now at https://github.com/w3c/html-aam
17:27:31 [MichaelC]
xrefs not working
17:28:38 [MichaelC]
may need to use subrepository
17:28:43 [MichaelC]
MC to experiment on CSS-AAM
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3. "Copyright for code samples" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:30:26 [MichaelC]
to circle back, mainly for practices but want a coordinated approach
17:30:35 [MichaelC]
MC to approach legal team
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4. "AOB" taken up [from MichaelC]
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none
17:31:08 [MichaelC]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 4 closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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5. Next Meeting [from MichaelC]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:31:28 [MichaelC]
Next meeting is 19 October 2016 at 1:00 pm Boston time
17:31:43 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/05-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC