IRC log of forms on 2016-09-21

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be
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I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
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Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
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Date: 21 September 2016
12:48:38 [Steven_]
Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0016
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Chair: Steven
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Topic: Action-1430 - Repeat with automatic controls
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0001.html
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Steven: I've got most of the text done, but need a little more time.
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Topic: Section 9 Container Form Controls
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https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#Container_Form_Controls
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0015
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Erik: I'm about half-way through the review of this section
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Steven: Thanks for the changes you made
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https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_group_Element
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Steven: I made another change there
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... I propose that we use the attribute form for labels in the majority of examples
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ACTION: Steven to review use of labels in examples
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Created ACTION-2071 - Review use of labels in examples [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-09-28].
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"4. Speaking of `caseref`, I don't remember if I raised this before but it
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is limiting to depend on the `id` of the `<case>`. In our implementation,
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we added an optional `value` attribute on `<case>` which can be used to
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associate a value with each `<case>` element.
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"
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Erik: The spec uses @id to store the reference to the node
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... this loses control over the value that matches the case
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... you might have two switches with some values that are shared, but you can't have duplicate ids
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<switch caseref="">
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<case id="apple"></case>
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<case id="tomato"></case>
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</switch>
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<switch caseref="">
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<case id="lettuce"></case>
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<case id="tomato"></case>
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</switch>
13:12:12 [Steven_]
Steven: I see what you mean
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... in fact it is a really bad idea to use id for caseref
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Erik: So we use @value (as well as @id)
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... the value is an expression
13:14:16 [ebruchez]
<switch caseref="">
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<case value="'apple'"></case>
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<case value="'tomato'"></case>
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</switch>
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<switch caseref="">
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<case value="'lettuce'"></case>
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<case value="'tomato'"></case>
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</switch>
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Or:
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Steven: What if two cases have the same value?
13:14:43 [ebruchez]
<switch caseref="">
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<case name="apple"></case>
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<case name="tomato"></case>
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</switch>
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<switch caseref="">
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<case name="lettuce"></case>
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<case name="tomato"></case>
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</switch>
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Steven: everytime we use the wod value, it's an expression, right?
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Erik: yes
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Erik: We take the first case in document order that matches the value
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ACTION: Erik to change text for caseref/case to use @value
13:18:32 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2072 - Change text for caseref/case to use @value [on Erik Bruchez - due 2016-09-28].
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Topic: AOB
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[None]
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[ADJOURN]
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Present: Steven, Erik, Alain, Philip.
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/21-forms-minutes.html Steven_
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