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12:48:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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12:48:08 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
12:48:08 <trackbot> Date: 21 September 2016
12:48:38 <Steven_> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0016
12:48:42 <Steven_> Chair: Steven
13:04:48 <Steven_> Topic: Action-1430 - Repeat with automatic controls
13:04:48 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0001.html
13:05:19 <Steven_> Steven: I've got most of the text done, but need a little more time.
13:05:53 <Steven_> Topic: Section 9 Container Form Controls
13:05:53 <Steven_> https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#Container_Form_Controls
13:05:53 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Sep/0015
13:06:09 <Steven_> Erik: I'm about half-way through the review of this section
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13:06:18 <Steven_> Steven: Thanks for the changes you made
13:06:56 <Steven_> https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_group_Element
13:07:04 <Steven_> Steven: I made another change there
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13:07:55 <Steven_> ... I propose that we use the attribute form for labels in the majority of examples
13:08:16 <Steven_> ACTION: Steven to review use of labels in examples
13:08:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2071 - Review use of labels in examples [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-09-28].
13:09:06 <Steven_> "4. Speaking of `caseref`, I don't remember if I raised this before but it
13:09:06 <Steven_> is limiting to depend on the `id` of the `<case>`. In our implementation,
13:09:06 <Steven_> we added an optional `value` attribute on `<case>` which can be used to
13:09:06 <Steven_> associate a value with each `<case>` element.
13:09:07 <Steven_> "
13:09:47 <Steven_> Erik: The spec uses @id to store the reference to the node
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13:10:15 <Steven_> ... this loses control over the value that matches the case
13:10:41 <Steven_> ... you might have two switches with some values that are shared, but you can't have duplicate ids
13:11:59 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:11:59 <ebruchez>     <case id="apple"></case>
13:12:01 <ebruchez>     <case id="tomato"></case>
13:12:02 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:12:04 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:12:05 <ebruchez>     <case id="lettuce"></case>
13:12:06 <ebruchez>     <case id="tomato"></case>
13:12:07 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:12:12 <Steven_> Steven: I see what you mean
13:12:24 <Steven_> ... in fact it is a really bad idea to use id for caseref
13:13:05 <Steven_> Erik: So we use @value (as well as @id)
13:13:11 <Steven_> ... the value is an expression
13:14:16 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:14:17 <ebruchez>     <case value="'apple'"></case>
13:14:18 <ebruchez>     <case value="'tomato'"></case>
13:14:20 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:14:21 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:14:23 <ebruchez>     <case value="'lettuce'"></case>
13:14:24 <ebruchez>     <case value="'tomato'"></case>
13:14:25 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:14:26 <ebruchez> Or:
13:14:41 <Steven_> Steven: What if two cases have the same value?
13:14:43 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:14:44 <ebruchez>     <case name="apple"></case>
13:14:45 <ebruchez>     <case name="tomato"></case>
13:14:47 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:14:48 <ebruchez> <switch caseref="">
13:14:50 <ebruchez>     <case name="lettuce"></case>
13:14:51 <ebruchez>     <case name="tomato"></case>
13:14:51 <ebruchez> </switch>
13:15:52 <Steven_> Steven: everytime we use the wod value, it's an expression, right?
13:16:01 <Steven_> Erik: yes
13:16:29 <Steven_> Erik: We take the first case in document order that matches the value
13:18:31 <Steven_> ACTION: Erik to change text for caseref/case to use @value
13:18:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2072 - Change text for caseref/case to use @value [on Erik Bruchez - due 2016-09-28].
13:19:10 <Steven_> Topic: AOB
13:19:17 <Steven_> [None]
13:19:25 <Steven_> [ADJOURN]
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13:28:01 <Steven_> Present: Steven, Erik, Alain, Philip.
13:28:06 <Steven_> rrsagent, make minutes
13:28:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/21-forms-minutes.html Steven_
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