Automotive Working Group Teleconference

Paul: TPAC coming up without any of the chairs but with both Team contacts (Ted and Kaz), JLR editors (Adam and Kevin) and others
... followed by AMM and F2F there where we would have a table available for demos with some interested in showcasing

Rudi: that sounds about right

Paul: do people feel we are on track for getting out a FPWD in this timeframe?

Rudi: I hope so and followed the thread on migrating the spec from the wiki to W3C respec format on github
... I won't be able to make it to TPAC due to internal commitments

Ted: @@ on spec progress
... ..tpac webappsec wot payments, those around congregate@@

Paul: looking forward to hearing about liaisons with other WG when we get together shortly after in Burlingame

[introduction of table demo space]

Ted: W3C is willing to get a table for outreach and happy to include demos from others of related specs

Rudi: JLR would be able to help out too and get involved

Paul: for actual meetings there is a security architecture meeting on Wednesday right?

Rudi: yes, looking for time

Paul: Jeremiah Foster in the Genivi security architecture group is interested in getting people from W3C activity involved
... when was the last security call?

Junichi: we have not have had one this month
... it is not very clear so far about including guidelines as a deliverable in the charter yet
... until that is cleared up unsure how to proceed
... and wondering how much to include in the service spec itself

Paul: we should continue liaising with that reforming group in Genivi and certainly some parts belong in the service spec

Hira: should we produce our service specification materials for this meeting on Wednesday?

Paul: that would be worthwile

Hira: Junichi do you think you can produce a presentation for this meeting?

Junichi: yes but think Genivi folks are more interested in other parts of the stack

Hira: I think it would be useful to make one at this important meeting

Rudi: the Genivi group is basically a reset, starting over
... Jeremiah is interested in W3C from privacy perspective and they may be looking for more

Hira: I would like to confirm process of VSS specification in Genivi meeting
... we would have to make up a test suite and VSS is a key factor

Rudi: Magnus has just released a version of VSS that reflected our meeting in July
... he recently made a presentation and I can forward that to this group

Hira: I am looking forward to this dictionary being available

Shinjiro: there are not that many signals last I looked

Rudi: we were 500 in July and probably 800 now

github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification

http://github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification

https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification

Ted: Magnus is keeping them in synch

Hira: many data are defined, take vehicle speed

[various people checkout repo, we'll ping Magnus as it got shifted around]

-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2016Sep/att-0000/VSS_Presentation_2.0.pptx JLR's VSS presentation

[Rudi sends VSS presentation to public list]

Paul reviews Genivi AMM schedule

-> https://www.genivi.org/sites/default/files/pictures/AMM%20Program_29Aug16.pdf Genivi AMM 2016 Burlingame Agenda

Paul: Thursday morning we are giving an update to Genivi members in a breakout session about W3C
... during the Wednesday evening showcase W3C will either be getting a table or joining JLR at theirs
... for Thursday and Friday we have meeting room available for W3C Auto WG

Wonsuk: we need to start updating our wiki. AMM is longer than two days and various points of interest should be added

Paul: basically plan on Wednesday through Friday
... we'll update the wiki
... the security liaison work is important and Junichi-san while they're looking at the other levels of the stack they're very interested in our level

Wonsuk: what about scheduling during TPAC

Ted: Kaz reached out to WoT, I will contact Web Payments and WebAppSec

Paul: Song, have you heard back on your demo code?

Song: nothing concrete yet.. Peter was interested in using it with his code
... the server is running on java as is the client in case of android
... the web page is just javascript + some html

Paul: ok seeing your velocimeter code

-> https://auto.newskysecurity.com/speed.xhtml link to Song's demo

-> https://github.com/newskysecurity/vswss/ associated repo

-> https://github.com/newskysecurity/velocimeter-view related android client

Paul: I'll look into it further and know Peter is interested

Song: there is a web and an android client