23:56:12 RRSAgent has joined #auto 23:56:12 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/09/06-auto-irc 23:56:14 RRSAgent, make logs public 23:56:14 Zakim has joined #auto 23:56:16 Zakim, this will be 23:56:16 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 23:56:17 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 23:56:17 Date: 06 September 2016 23:59:11 wonsuk has joined #auto 00:02:16 urata_access has joined #auto 00:02:52 Present+ Paul, Rudi, Junichi, Ted, Wonsuk, Shinjiro 00:03:31 junichi-hashimoto has joined #auto 00:04:40 scribenick: ted 00:04:46 Chair: Paul, Rudi 00:06:25 Paul: TPAC coming up without any of the chairs but with both Team contacts (Ted and Kaz), JLR editors (Adam and Kevin) and others 00:06:55 … followed by AMM and F2F there where we would have a table available for demos with some interested in showcasing 00:07:03 Rudi: that sounds about right 00:07:32 Paul: do people feel we are on track for getting out a FPWD in this timeframe? 00:08:18 Rudi: I hope so and followed the thread on migrating the spec from the wiki to W3C respec format on github 00:08:47 … I won't be able to make it to TPAC due to internal commitments 00:09:52 hira has joined #auto 00:12:11 Ted: @@ on spec progress 00:13:46 … ..tpac webappsec wot payments, those around congregate@@ 00:13:47 yingying has joined #auto 00:14:06 Present+ Hira 00:14:26 present+ Yingying 00:14:45 Paul: looking forward to hearing about liaisons with other WG when we get together shortly after in Burlingame 00:16:14 [introduction of table demo space] 00:17:03 Ted: W3C is willing to get a table for outreach and happy to include demos from others of related specs 00:17:20 Rudi: JLR would be able to help out too and get involved 00:17:53 Paul: for actual meetings there is a security architecture meeting on Wednesday right? 00:18:05 Rudi: yes, looking for time 00:18:50 Paul: Jeremiah Foster in the Genivi security architecture group is interested in getting people from W3C activity involved 00:19:25 … when was the last security call? 00:19:43 Junichi: we have not have had one this month 00:20:06 … it is not very clear so far about including guidelines as a deliverable in the charter yet 00:20:15 … until that is cleared up unsure how to proceed 00:20:48 … and wondering how much to include in the service spec itself 00:22:01 Paul: we should continue liaising with that reforming group in Genivi and certainly some parts belong in the service spec 00:23:16 Hira: should we produce our service specification materials for this meeting on Wednesday? 00:24:00 Paul: that would be worthwile 00:24:17 Hira: Junichi do you think you can produce a presentation for this meeting? 00:24:57 Junichi: yes but think Genivi folks are more interested in other parts of the stack 00:25:53 Hira: I think it would be useful to make one at this important meeting 00:26:11 Rudi: the Genivi group is basically a reset, starting over 00:26:47 … Jeremiah is interested in W3C from privacy perspective and they may be looking for more 00:28:08 Hira: I would like to confirm process of VSS specification in Genivi meeting 00:28:28 … we would have to make up a test suite and VSS is a key factor 00:29:04 Rudi: Magnus has just released a version of VSS that reflected our meeting in July 00:29:15 … he recently made a presentation and I can forward that to this group 00:30:29 Hira: I am looking forward to this dictionary being available 00:30:57 Shinjiro: there are not that many signals last I looked 00:31:08 Rudi: we were 500 in July and probably 800 now 00:31:52 paul has joined #auto 00:32:06 github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification 00:32:10 http://github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification 00:32:34 https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification 00:33:07 Ted: Magnus is keeping them in synch 00:40:49 Hira: many data are defined, take vehicle speed 00:41:17 [various people checkout repo, we'll ping Magnus as it got shifted around] 00:41:40 SongLi has joined #auto 00:42:11 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2016Sep/att-0000/VSS_Presentation_2.0.pptx JLR's VSS presentation 00:42:32 [Rudi sends VSS presentation to public list] 00:42:47 Paul reviews Genivi AMM schedule 00:43:28 -> https://www.genivi.org/sites/default/files/pictures/AMM%20Program_29Aug16.pdf Genivi AMM 2016 Burlingame Agenda 00:44:39 Paul: Thursday morning we are giving an update to Genivi members in a breakout session about W3C 00:45:22 … during the Wednesday evening showcase W3C will either be getting a table or joining JLR at theirs 00:46:06 … for Thursday and Friday we have meeting room available for W3C Auto WG 00:47:13 Wonsuk: we need to start updating our wiki. AMM is longer than two days and various points of interest should be added 00:47:41 Paul: basically plan on Wednesday through Friday 00:47:51 … we'll update the wiki 00:50:13 … the security liaison work is important and Junichi-san while they're looking at the other levels of the stack they're very interested in our level 00:51:19 Wonsuk: what about scheduling during TPAC 00:52:21 Ted: Kaz reached out to WoT, I will contact Web Payments and WebAppSec 00:52:50 Present+ Song 00:54:10 Paul: Song, have you heard back on your demo code? 00:55:02 Song: nothing concrete yet.. Peter was interested in using it with his code 00:55:27 … the server is running on java as is the client in case of android 00:55:48 … the web page is just javascript + some html 00:56:09 Paul: ok seeing your velocimeter code 00:56:54 -> https://auto.newskysecurity.com/speed.xhtml link to Song's demo 00:57:34 -> https://github.com/newskysecurity/vswss/ associated repo 00:57:55 -> https://github.com/newskysecurity/velocimeter-view related android client 00:58:24 Paul: I'll look into it further and know Peter is interested 00:59:31 wonsuk has joined #auto 00:59:40 Song: there is a web and an android client 00:59:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/06-auto-minutes.html ted 01:00:11 From GTP 01:00:13 Rudi Streif to Everyone github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification 5:47 PMRudi Streif to Everyone GENIVI AMM: https://www.genivi.org/genivi-15th-all-member-meeting 5:47 PMRudi Streif to Everyone AMM Schedule: https://www.genivi.org/sites/default/files/pictures/AMM%20Program_29Aug16.pdf 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone https://auto.newskysecurity.com/speed.xhtml 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone this is the web demo for wss 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone https://github.com/newsk 01:00:22 GTM 01:01:24 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Paul, Rudi, Junichi, Ted, Wonsuk, Shinjiro, Hira, Yingying, Song 01:01:24 Zakim has left #auto 01:01:36 I see no action items