IRC log of auto on 2016-09-06
Timestamps are in UTC.
- 23:56:12 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #auto
- 23:56:12 [RRSAgent]
- logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/09/06-auto-irc
- 23:56:14 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 23:56:14 [Zakim]
- Zakim has joined #auto
- 23:56:16 [trackbot]
- Zakim, this will be
- 23:56:16 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
- 23:56:17 [trackbot]
- Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference
- 23:56:17 [trackbot]
- Date: 06 September 2016
- 23:59:11 [wonsuk]
- wonsuk has joined #auto
- 00:02:16 [urata_access]
- urata_access has joined #auto
- 00:02:52 [ted]
- Present+ Paul, Rudi, Junichi, Ted, Wonsuk, Shinjiro
- 00:03:31 [junichi-hashimoto]
- junichi-hashimoto has joined #auto
- 00:04:40 [ted]
- scribenick: ted
- 00:04:46 [ted]
- Chair: Paul, Rudi
- 00:06:25 [ted]
- Paul: TPAC coming up without any of the chairs but with both Team contacts (Ted and Kaz), JLR editors (Adam and Kevin) and others
- 00:06:55 [ted]
- … followed by AMM and F2F there where we would have a table available for demos with some interested in showcasing
- 00:07:03 [ted]
- Rudi: that sounds about right
- 00:07:32 [ted]
- Paul: do people feel we are on track for getting out a FPWD in this timeframe?
- 00:08:18 [ted]
- Rudi: I hope so and followed the thread on migrating the spec from the wiki to W3C respec format on github
- 00:08:47 [ted]
- … I won't be able to make it to TPAC due to internal commitments
- 00:09:52 [hira]
- hira has joined #auto
- 00:12:11 [ted]
- Ted: @@ on spec progress
- 00:13:46 [ted]
- … ..tpac webappsec wot payments, those around congregate@@
- 00:13:47 [yingying]
- yingying has joined #auto
- 00:14:06 [ted]
- Present+ Hira
- 00:14:26 [yingying]
- present+ Yingying
- 00:14:45 [ted]
- Paul: looking forward to hearing about liaisons with other WG when we get together shortly after in Burlingame
- 00:16:14 [ted]
- [introduction of table demo space]
- 00:17:03 [ted]
- Ted: W3C is willing to get a table for outreach and happy to include demos from others of related specs
- 00:17:20 [ted]
- Rudi: JLR would be able to help out too and get involved
- 00:17:53 [ted]
- Paul: for actual meetings there is a security architecture meeting on Wednesday right?
- 00:18:05 [ted]
- Rudi: yes, looking for time
- 00:18:50 [ted]
- Paul: Jeremiah Foster in the Genivi security architecture group is interested in getting people from W3C activity involved
- 00:19:25 [ted]
- … when was the last security call?
- 00:19:43 [ted]
- Junichi: we have not have had one this month
- 00:20:06 [ted]
- … it is not very clear so far about including guidelines as a deliverable in the charter yet
- 00:20:15 [ted]
- … until that is cleared up unsure how to proceed
- 00:20:48 [ted]
- … and wondering how much to include in the service spec itself
- 00:22:01 [ted]
- Paul: we should continue liaising with that reforming group in Genivi and certainly some parts belong in the service spec
- 00:23:16 [ted]
- Hira: should we produce our service specification materials for this meeting on Wednesday?
- 00:24:00 [ted]
- Paul: that would be worthwile
- 00:24:17 [ted]
- Hira: Junichi do you think you can produce a presentation for this meeting?
- 00:24:57 [ted]
- Junichi: yes but think Genivi folks are more interested in other parts of the stack
- 00:25:53 [ted]
- Hira: I think it would be useful to make one at this important meeting
- 00:26:11 [ted]
- Rudi: the Genivi group is basically a reset, starting over
- 00:26:47 [ted]
- … Jeremiah is interested in W3C from privacy perspective and they may be looking for more
- 00:28:08 [ted]
- Hira: I would like to confirm process of VSS specification in Genivi meeting
- 00:28:28 [ted]
- … we would have to make up a test suite and VSS is a key factor
- 00:29:04 [ted]
- Rudi: Magnus has just released a version of VSS that reflected our meeting in July
- 00:29:15 [ted]
- … he recently made a presentation and I can forward that to this group
- 00:30:29 [ted]
- Hira: I am looking forward to this dictionary being available
- 00:30:57 [ted]
- Shinjiro: there are not that many signals last I looked
- 00:31:08 [ted]
- Rudi: we were 500 in July and probably 800 now
- 00:31:52 [paul]
- paul has joined #auto
- 00:32:06 [ted]
- github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification
- 00:32:10 [ted]
- http://github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification
- 00:32:34 [ted]
- https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification
- 00:33:07 [ted]
- Ted: Magnus is keeping them in synch
- 00:40:49 [ted]
- Hira: many data are defined, take vehicle speed
- 00:41:17 [ted]
- [various people checkout repo, we'll ping Magnus as it got shifted around]
- 00:41:40 [SongLi]
- SongLi has joined #auto
- 00:42:11 [ted]
- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2016Sep/att-0000/VSS_Presentation_2.0.pptx JLR's VSS presentation
- 00:42:32 [ted]
- [Rudi sends VSS presentation to public list]
- 00:42:47 [ted]
- Paul reviews Genivi AMM schedule
- 00:43:28 [ted]
- -> https://www.genivi.org/sites/default/files/pictures/AMM%20Program_29Aug16.pdf Genivi AMM 2016 Burlingame Agenda
- 00:44:39 [ted]
- Paul: Thursday morning we are giving an update to Genivi members in a breakout session about W3C
- 00:45:22 [ted]
- … during the Wednesday evening showcase W3C will either be getting a table or joining JLR at theirs
- 00:46:06 [ted]
- … for Thursday and Friday we have meeting room available for W3C Auto WG
- 00:47:13 [ted]
- Wonsuk: we need to start updating our wiki. AMM is longer than two days and various points of interest should be added
- 00:47:41 [ted]
- Paul: basically plan on Wednesday through Friday
- 00:47:51 [ted]
- … we'll update the wiki
- 00:50:13 [ted]
- … the security liaison work is important and Junichi-san while they're looking at the other levels of the stack they're very interested in our level
- 00:51:19 [ted]
- Wonsuk: what about scheduling during TPAC
- 00:52:21 [ted]
- Ted: Kaz reached out to WoT, I will contact Web Payments and WebAppSec
- 00:52:50 [ted]
- Present+ Song
- 00:54:10 [ted]
- Paul: Song, have you heard back on your demo code?
- 00:55:02 [ted]
- Song: nothing concrete yet.. Peter was interested in using it with his code
- 00:55:27 [ted]
- … the server is running on java as is the client in case of android
- 00:55:48 [ted]
- … the web page is just javascript + some html
- 00:56:09 [ted]
- Paul: ok seeing your velocimeter code
- 00:56:54 [ted]
- -> https://auto.newskysecurity.com/speed.xhtml link to Song's demo
- 00:57:34 [ted]
- -> https://github.com/newskysecurity/vswss/ associated repo
- 00:57:55 [ted]
- -> https://github.com/newskysecurity/velocimeter-view related android client
- 00:58:24 [ted]
- Paul: I'll look into it further and know Peter is interested
- 00:59:31 [wonsuk]
- wonsuk has joined #auto
- 00:59:40 [ted]
- Song: there is a web and an android client
- 00:59:51 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/06-auto-minutes.html ted
- 01:00:11 [paul]
- From GTP
- 01:00:13 [paul]
- Rudi Streif to Everyone github.com/PDXostc/vehicle_signal_specification 5:47 PMRudi Streif to Everyone GENIVI AMM: https://www.genivi.org/genivi-15th-all-member-meeting 5:47 PMRudi Streif to Everyone AMM Schedule: https://www.genivi.org/sites/default/files/pictures/AMM%20Program_29Aug16.pdf 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone https://auto.newskysecurity.com/speed.xhtml 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone this is the web demo for wss 5:56 PMSong Li to Everyone https://github.com/newsk
- 01:00:22 [paul]
- GTM
- 01:01:24 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Paul, Rudi, Junichi, Ted, Wonsuk, Shinjiro, Hira, Yingying, Song
- 01:01:24 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #auto
- 01:01:36 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items