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16:31:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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16:31:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
16:31:42 <trackbot> Date: 11 August 2016
16:31:44 <Rich> chair: Rich
16:32:03 <Rich> present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:32:12 <Rich> RRSAgent, make log public
16:32:49 <fesch> present+ fesch
16:33:11 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
16:33:14 <fesch> scribe: fesch
16:33:25 <fesch> TOPIC: CfC resutls
16:34:36 <fesch> rs: aria-details got SHOULD language, for dPub,  no objects, Matt K offered editorial rewrites
16:34:54 <JF> Present+ JF
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16:35:14 <fesch> rs: CfC for aria-details passes, Matt can make editorial changes, Joanie will ensure changes are editorial only
16:35:19 <Rich> Action Matt: Make editiorial changes ONLY to aria-details.
16:35:19 <trackbot> 'Matt' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mgarrish, mking3).
16:35:47 <Rich> Action mking3: Make editiorial changes ONLY to aria-details.
16:35:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2107 - Make editiorial changes only to aria-details. [on Matthew King - due 2016-08-18].
16:36:04 <clown> present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
16:36:17 <fesch> Action-1719
16:36:17 <trackbot> Action-1719 -- Michael Cooper to Draft aria 1.1 cr exit criteria -- due 2015-10-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:36:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1719
16:36:36 <fesch> TOPIC action 1719
16:36:54 <fesch> mc: I will update by CR
16:37:09 <fesch> rs: I want it in one place so we can check testable statements
16:37:28 <janina> present+ Janina
16:37:34 <fesch> rs: can Joanie put it in a wiki?
16:37:50 <fesch> rs: need to break up test files from testable statements
16:38:09 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2105
16:38:23 <fesch> rs: what progress has been made Jon?
16:38:47 <fesch> jf: Jon Gunderson is on vacation until 3rd week of August
16:39:06 <fesch> rs: we should br3ak up testable statements from files in test harness
16:39:18 <fesch> Action-1723
16:39:18 <trackbot> Action-1723 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Editorial - create sections listing the roles that provide (1) nameFrom:author and (2) nameFrom:contents -- due 2016-03-30 -- OPEN
16:39:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1723
16:40:00 <fesch> jd: Shane provided stuff, there are outstanding questions
16:40:37 <fesch> rs: do you see anyone wanting a section in the ARIA spec that lists name, roles?
16:40:53 <fesch> jf: What you have is OK
16:41:22 <fesch> js: have comments about needing list of roles with names from content
16:42:09 <fesch> js: it should be simple a list of roles
16:42:50 <fesch> jd: can do a draft today
16:43:45 <fesch> Action-2106
16:43:45 <trackbot> Action-2106 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Create branch for the cfc for aria-details and the authors must going to an authors should -- due 2016-08-11 -- OPEN
16:43:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2106
16:43:55 <fesch> Action-2106
16:43:55 <trackbot> Action-2106 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Create branch for the cfc for aria-details and the authors must going to an authors should -- due 2016-08-11 -- OPEN
16:43:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2106
16:46:17 <clown> action-2107
16:46:17 <trackbot> action-2107 -- Matthew King to Make editiorial changes only to aria-details. -- due 2016-08-18 -- OPEN
16:46:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2107
16:47:13 <fesch> TOPIC: testable statements
16:47:53 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2105
16:47:56 <fesch> jd: I pasted into action and tracker messed it up
16:48:17 <fesch> action-2105
16:48:17 <trackbot> action-2105 -- Michael Cooper to Do a ¨net change¨ list in preparation for test case development -- due 2016-08-11 -- OPEN
16:48:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2105
16:49:18 <Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2105
16:50:41 <fesch> mc: put changes on the wiki
16:51:12 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Changes
16:51:47 <fesch> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Automated_Testing
16:52:18 <Rich> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements
16:53:26 <Rich> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#aria-rowcount
16:54:09 <fesch> https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Assertions_with_Tables
16:54:51 <ShaneM> present+ ShaneM
16:56:37 <ShaneM> q+ to ask about how this dovetails with automation work
16:57:42 <fesch> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements
16:59:35 <fesch> fe: I can generate JSON + files or JSON from wiki markup
17:00:06 <ShaneM> ack ShaneM
17:00:06 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to ask about how this dovetails with automation work
17:00:07 <fesch> q?
17:02:19 <JF> Q+
17:02:52 <joanie> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Changes
17:03:59 <Rich> q?
17:04:39 <fesch> jf: I have two colleagues that can do it once the pattern is established
17:05:04 <Rich> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#Overview
17:05:27 <JF> ack JF
17:05:43 <fesch> sm: want to make sure we don't waste effort
17:06:18 <fesch> rs: anyone aware of any blockers for CR?
17:07:01 <fesch> js: not sure about feed
17:07:11 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to coordinate with fred on testable statements and the format. sync up with JF on getting testable statements written to match the desired format.
17:07:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2108 - Coordinate with fred on testable statements and the format. sync up with jf on getting testable statements written to match the desired format. [on Shane McCarron - due 2016-08-18].
17:07:52 <fesch> rs: don't see any show stoppers
17:08:25 <fesch> rs: did dPub stuff , being run by folks,  Cynthia will be the last one...
17:09:15 <fesch> jd: want to avoid a 1.2, but there might be a few minor things
17:09:41 <fesch> jd: sites some nits...
17:10:11 <fesch> jd: the nature of the text role...
17:11:09 <fesch> rs: we have a lot to do for ARIA 1.1 not worried about a potential 1.2...
17:12:06 <fesch> mc: I think web platform or HTML should have more ownership of XXX
17:12:35 <fesch> rs: we are going to start a CSS task force...
17:13:57 <fesch> mc: I don't want to spend TPAC time to do test case development
17:14:09 <fesch> rs: I think we will have time for it
17:14:26 <fesch> js: joint meetings with....
17:14:32 <fesch> rs: that is APA...
17:14:49 <fesch> rs: I don't see much with SVG...
17:15:29 <fesch> rs: we can reserve time for ARIA 2.0
17:15:47 <fesch> mc: yes, talk about ARIA 2.0 and ARIA next...
17:16:07 <fesch> rs: what are the two things for TAG?
17:17:13 <fesch> rs: shane what day is best for you at TPAC for talking about testing.?
17:17:21 <fesch> sm: will send an email
17:17:39 <fesch> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:18:20 <fesch> Michael,  I get Sorry, Insufficient Access Privileges
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19:25:32 <ShaneM> joanie: I will review it too.  thanks!
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