00:02:57 RRSAgent has joined #auto 00:02:57 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/03-auto-irc 00:03:02 Zakim has joined #auto 00:04:18 urata_access has joined #auto 00:07:50 present+ Paul_Boyes, Ted_Guild, Shinjiro_Urata, Junichi_Hashimoto 00:08:07 Topic: WG Recharter 00:08:25 Shinjiro: I am concerned about the timeline for the roadmap 00:08:47 Paul: the charter still needs works clearly. what issues do you see specifically? 00:09:09 Shinjiro: FPWD is due this September which does not seem like much time 00:09:45 Paul: JLR editors feel it is possible and it would be useful to have something concrete to discuss at W3C TPAC and Genivi AMM 00:10:06 Shinjiro: if they feel it is possible, it is ok with me. it does seem optmistic 00:11:18 Paul: agree, remember this is an initial talking point and not set in stone 00:12:25 … Ted, your thoughts? 00:12:42 Ted: in-line, it is ambitious but we want to get people looking at it 00:18:26 … I'll get input on W3C side if people think timing with AC review, recharter and publication 00:18:44 … it might be suggested we push that back a quarter 00:18:48 https://w3c.github.io/automotive/charter-2016/ 00:19:06 Paul: I made some revisions, what are next steps? 00:19:16 Shinjiro: not so many changes and they seem reasonable 00:19:51 … I'm also concerned about a dramatic change from client side WebIDL to server side sockets 00:20:27 … will this be acceptable by W3C and when can we know? 00:20:49 … perhaps we will not get a reaction until it is published 00:27:42 Ted: you cannot predict how an audience will respond. we should provide an accompanying document for rationale on why we made that switch 00:28:28 … I will get working with Kaz, Philipp and others at W3C plus send an email to WG to provide input 00:28:50 https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/Guidance-Deprecated-Internal-Names.pdf 00:29:23 … before sending to W3C Management, I will make sure to give WG last chance 00:29:29 s/chance/chance to review 00:31:19 hira has joined #auto 00:31:22 Topic: Certificate Authorities 00:34:02 Junichi: my concern is that we will not be able to get certificates from a regonized CA for wwwvi.local 00:34:34 Ted: correct CA do not nor should issue such certificates. OEM will need to self-sign 00:34:48 Junich: we should mention that explicitly in the specification then 00:35:05 Paul has joined #auto 00:35:26 https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/Guidance-Deprecated-Internal-Names.pdf 00:40:07 Shinjiro: will we have F2F at both TPAC and AMM? 00:40:17 Paul: we did say that but need clarity 00:40:31 … most people won't be able to go to both. some can make one or the other 00:40:54 … it would be great to have interaction from W3C community for automotive 00:41:40 sam has joined #auto 00:42:17 Ted: we discussed doing a survey to get a sense of who will be able to attend which 00:47:46 urata: "we should provide an accompanying document for rationale on why we made that switch", yes, I think we need good reason 00:48:47 I think one is "easier to implement without modifying browser native code" 00:49:16 another one is, " better collaboration with Genivi by using same data structure" 00:49:34 and data structure flexibility 00:50:05 bye 01:19:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/03-auto-minutes.html ted 01:19:58 rb 01:20:03 RRSAgent, bye 01:20:03 I see no action items