17:04:36 RRSAgent has joined #aria-apg 17:04:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/06/27-aria-apg-irc 17:04:41 Zakim has joined #aria-apg 17:04:48 Meeting: ARIA APG TF 17:04:56 rrsagent, make log world 17:05:25 Agenda+ Review status of current example development work https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Design-Patterns-Status 17:05:25 Agenda+ Review format (not content) of tree pattern example page as proposal for improved example information template 17:06:27 present+ jaeunKu 17:06:43 present+ JamesNurthen 17:06:54 present+ MattKing 17:07:01 present+ Birkir 17:07:26 present+ JonGunderson 17:07:35 present+ AnnAbbott 17:07:53 present+ IanPouncey 17:08:07 zakim, pick a victim 17:08:07 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Birkir 17:08:27 scribe: matt_king 17:09:11 scribe: mck 17:09:22 zakim, take up first item 17:09:22 I don't understand 'take up first item', mck 17:09:32 zakim, take up item 1 17:09:32 agendum 1. "Review status of current example development work https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Design-Patterns-Status" taken up [from jamesn] 17:09:34 Birkir has joined #aria-apg 17:09:44 present+ Birkir 17:10:27 mk: reviewing status page. 17:11:09 mk: Want to include dates in table rather than just flags. 17:14:37 https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/js/treeview.js 17:15:20 MK: Discuss need for coding guidelines 17:15:34 MK: Ask Ian if he can contribute 17:15:44 IP: Yes, can do in next couple weeks. 17:16:04 jg: Shared current treeview example 17:16:29 jg: includes license, and doc 17:16:48 ip: will use as a starting point 17:17:17 jg: want ti to be readable and understandable, especially for keyboard support. 17:18:38 mk: issues like how much of the aria is in the html vs injected with js 17:18:53 jg: yes, easier to follow if attribs are in the html 17:19:24 mk: goal is to make it easier for other people to contribute to the project. 17:19:52 jg: Not necessarily easier but they have to read somethig. 17:20:52 mk: Just to be clear, this is only about the js/css/html, not the complete example template. 17:22:20 mk: Bryan could you contribute accordian. 17:24:01 bg: It would helpif someone else put together the template page. 17:24:16 bg: I will be gone from aug 2 to sep 2 17:26:33 I can help with the documentation/content part of the accordion if needed. 17:34:10 mk: discussion of review process; attempt to do async via the list. 17:34:27 https://cdn.rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html 17:34:43 jg: tree is ready. woudllike review today. 17:38:17 mk: Birkir will take the tabs example; Michiel can then focus on spinbutton. 17:38:37 zakim, take up next item 17:38:37 agendum 2. "Review format (not content) of tree pattern example page as proposal for improved example information template" taken up [from jamesn] 17:39:04 https://cdn.rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html 17:39:08 https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html 17:40:49 jg: This template features a table that describes each of several different kinds of trees. 17:41:00 jg: it is an overview page. 17:41:17 jg: Describes which aria attribs are used in each example 17:43:23 mk: wondering if this overview info goes in the main doc 17:43:44 mk: we will not have so many examples for every pattern 17:43:53 jg: that's fine to do it that way 17:44:52 Birkir: enjoys the fruit example 17:45:58 mk: could the link tree replace the site navigator tree section 17:47:57 Birkir: likes the idea of consolidating. 17:48:55 mk: John, did you make any other template changes on the example pages 17:49:19 jg: We added a keyboard section table 17:49:32 jg: We have an aria roles table 17:50:14 mk: Is this redundant info 17:50:35 jg: not every example does everything described in the main doc 17:50:50 So, it says what is used in this particular example. 18:02:09 https://blog.codepen.io/documentation/features/embedded-pens/ 18:03:38 mk: discussion of how readers of examples can easily download or use the thml that goes along with the css and js. 18:05:38 birkir's team tested accessibility between jsfiddle and codepen andfound codepen is more accessible. 18:08:38 mck: May we have a way of rending html automatically in the example? 18:09:19 This is how we do it on Deque University: https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/counters/sf-characters-remaining 18:12:11 mck:filename.html can be added as a separate link in the example so that html file can be downloaded. 18:12:15 mk: 3 high-level changes to template: 18:12:42 1. Overview page is part of main doc and does not include the detail tables. 18:12:56 2. Move detail tables to example pages. 18:13:20 3. Make downloading example source easier. 18:13:53 4. Add a description of the use case of the example. 18:16:44 mck:main doc means "apg doc" 18:18:50 https://gist.github.com/jongund/2f4510cbddd4d7ace40154656a6867d4 18:19:17 TOPIC: Instructions for creating an example 18:19:27 JG: provided link to a gist 18:23:50 mk: This gist is good start but missing initial steps. 18:24:49 mk: Assume this is being read by someone who is not familiar with our repo and may even need basic git guidance. 20:22:13 jamesn has joined #aria-apg 21:21:44 mck has joined #aria-apg 22:23:08 IanPouncey has joined #aria-apg 22:33:32 jamesn has joined #aria-apg 23:28:36 rrsagent, make minutes 23:28:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/27-aria-apg-minutes.html mck 23:32:58 zakim, bye 23:32:58 leaving. 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