IRC log of aria-editors on 2016-06-15

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/06/15-aria-editors-irc
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16:11:26 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make log world
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16:11:26 [MichaelC]
scribe: MichaelC
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chair: MichaelC
16:11:26 [MichaelC]
agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2016Jun/0004.html
16:11:26 [MichaelC]
regrets: Rich, Tzviya
16:11:28 [MichaelC]
meeting: ARIA editors
16:11:30 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Timeline check
16:11:32 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Commit history after branch merge
16:11:34 [MichaelC]
agenda+ When to remove editorial notes
16:11:36 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Changes to AXAPI names in mapping table https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/399#issuecomment-225467723
16:11:39 [MichaelC]
agenda+ AOB
16:11:41 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Next Meeting
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17:03:28 [clown]
present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:03:33 [joanie]
present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
17:03:59 [MichaelC]
present: MichaelC, Michiel, JamesN
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present+ Fred
17:04:24 [ShaneM]
present+ ShaneM
17:04:47 [MichaelC]
agenda?
17:05:08 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1. "Timeline check" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:05:23 [MichaelC]
Practices and Primer pending
17:05:31 [MichaelC]
ARIA spec: still need WG approval
17:06:03 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 was just opened, MichaelC
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 1 closed
17:06:08 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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2. Commit history after branch merge [from MichaelC]
17:06:09 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Commit history after branch merge" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:06:49 [MichaelC]
can merge in a way that preserves commits, or squashes them
17:06:53 [MichaelC]
defaults is now to squash
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17:07:10 [MichaelC]
has caused loss of commit messages after branch deleted
17:07:29 [MichaelC]
JD takes advantage of this to clean up whitespace and stuff before merge
17:08:21 [MichaelC]
discussion also happens not directly relevant to why the branch is being merged
17:08:27 [MichaelC]
but Matt wanted some history
17:09:30 [MichaelC]
MC suggest squashing better, but need procedures to preserve commits locally if desired
17:09:46 [MichaelC]
maybe keep branch deletes on server from killing it on your client
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3. "When to remove editorial notes" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:09:59 [MichaelC]
regrets+ Matt
17:10:32 [MichaelC]
Is there a time editorial notes are removed?
17:11:44 [MichaelC]
MC cleans them from CR and later, makes sure they´re appropriate to the stage
17:12:18 [MichaelC]
doesn´t do for WD
17:12:22 [MichaelC]
editors can do at their judgement
17:12:35 [MichaelC]
also want dates in the ednotes?
17:13:04 [joanie]
q+ to ask why
17:13:29 [MichaelC]
ack j
17:13:29 [Zakim]
joanie, you wanted to ask why
17:14:10 [MichaelC]
JD: consumer of date?
17:14:30 [MichaelC]
MB: I don´t dig through git history routinely
17:15:12 [MichaelC]
JD: date in comment?
17:15:23 [MichaelC]
MB: visible date might help a reviewer
17:17:19 [ShaneM]
do people use class="ednote" for editorial ntoes?
17:17:34 [ShaneM]
q+ to ask about a potential feature
17:17:34 [clown]
ShaneM: I do
17:17:49 [MichaelC]
ack s
17:17:49 [Zakim]
ShaneM, you wanted to ask about a potential feature
17:19:01 [MichaelC]
SM: respec feature to suppress?
17:19:24 [MichaelC]
MC: not a big editorial burden, and I do it context-sensitive at later maturities
17:20:18 [ShaneM]
<div datetime="alskdaslkjd" class="ednote">
17:20:51 [MichielBijl]
+1
17:20:55 [MichaelC]
maybe a Respec feature request to output that if present, so would have consistent presentation
17:20:59 [joanie]
+1
17:21:44 [MichaelC]
RESOLUTION: editors should clear editorial notes when they see the need. Publishing contact will clear at PR and Rec.
17:22:01 [MichaelC]
RESOLUTION: no requirement to date ednotes, but allowed. Ideal to have common format.
17:22:08 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 4. "Changes to AXAPI names in mapping table https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/399#issuecomment-225467723" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:23:25 [MichaelC]
JK will update the docs
17:23:30 [MichaelC]
want to make sure edits don´t collide
17:23:42 [MichaelC]
Re-org not happening for 2 weeks at least, along with ARIA 1.1 publication
17:23:49 [MichaelC]
so ok to do from that perspective before then
17:24:18 [MichaelC]
(MC will coordinate specific timing and ¨hands off¨ period with editors when doing the re-org)
17:24:22 [ShaneM]
https://github.com/w3c/respec/issues/829
17:26:32 [MichaelC]
<technical nittie gritties>
17:26:42 [clown]
suggest for testable statements do: AXRole/accessibilityRole
17:32:12 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 5. "AOB" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:32:35 [MichaelC]
zakim, close this item
17:32:35 [Zakim]
agendum 5 closed
17:32:36 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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6. Next Meeting [from MichaelC]
17:32:37 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 6. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MichaelC]
17:32:47 [MichaelC]
Next meeting is 3 weeks, 6 July
17:33:02 [MichaelC]
regrets from Shane
17:33:39 [MichaelC]
ARIA 1.1 will hopefully be published by then
17:33:42 [MichaelC]
and the repository split
17:34:06 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:34:06 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/15-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC
17:38:46 [clown]
that latest one uses "AXRole", etc.
17:47:54 [joanie]
RRSAgent, part
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I see no action items