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<fesch> agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016May/0005.html
<scribe> Scribe: AmeliaBR
FE: This came up on the mailing list, does anybody want to revisit the prefix graphics-*?
RS: No, I think we've already
discussed this enough.
... (to Amelia) Have you made any changes yet?
ABR: I've pushed change graphics-doc to graphics-document. I've started on the change to the table of mapping roles, but it hasn't been pushed to master.
FE: Any other comments or discussion with respect to graphics-document instead of -doc?
(no one comments)
ABR: If anyone finds any cases
that still use graphics-doc, please make a pull request.
... for the actual role mapping, that should be ready for next
week.
FE: Doug has been discussing with chaals, but it's not up yet.
DS: Should be online next week.
FE: We need an update on features which might affect us & tests we create.
<Rich> Note: there is the link to the HTML-AAM issue for the <svg> element: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/347
ABR: At SVG2 meeting it was
decided that any new features with no implementations should be
officially marked at-risk.
... warning authors, prodding implementers
FE: What's the timeline for SVG 2?
ABR: Trying to get CR as soon as possible. We won't be removing features between now and then, but marking things as at-risk makes it easier later on if we have to remove them before moving to Recommendation status.
DS: Specifically, CR by end of June.
FE: Any features other than multilingual title/desc we should be aware of?
ABR: tabindex is important for accessibility, allows DOM/reading order to be independent from painting order, but I don't think that will affect any of our tests.
<fesch> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/
FE: There's a lot of discussion about ARIA Action 2044 (presentational roles), not sure if there's anything we need to discuss
ABR: I think the discussion is mostly editorial, main decisions that affect our specs have already been made.
FE: Action-2002, Is this still relevant?
ABR: Action is still relevant, but the changes that are required are not as described in that note. Need to update based on the current understanding of presentational roles.
FE: Rich's Action-2003 is related, needs to follow up with the main ARIA spec
RS: Yes, but still need to look into how native semantics interact
FE: Action-2004, clean up title/desc
ABR: I think there are still a few items there that I need to handle
FE: How will this be affected by multilingual title/desc being removed?
ABR: I think our wording is sufficiently vague, it just defers to rules in SVG 2 for selecting the correct alternative
FE: Action-2008, by Doug, any updates?
DS: No, not this week
FE: Charles has Action-2020, follow up with WCAG re role none and title/desc
CMN: I've pushed off the due date, I'll follow up.
FE: Action-2021 looks like a
duplicate on Rich re presentational roles
... and Action-2022, update graphics roles mapping on
Amelia
ABR: Still working on it.
... Brian had discovered a section in graphics role spec that
needs to be updated given issues with presentation/none
https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/354/files
... I'm going to suggest adding more nuanced text instead of
just removing it, need to draft wording.
<fesch> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html
<fesch> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html#introduction
FE: I added an extra bullet point with the Graphics roles spec, in the introduction
ABR: that looks fine. Any work on the other changes to that section we discussed last week?
FE: Not yet, I can add it in.
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