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<MichielBijl> New meeting URL, for next meeting mail: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m4b54b847795d432ef8a2ba82e488fea2
<scribe> scribe: jamesn
jn: describes the changes
... added 2nd bullet to Step 3.
aa: sugest adding 2nd sentence to bullet to find more information.
tb: add a 2nd sentence to point to section below
<Birkir> ...I can't believe our WebEx client has an inaccessible CAPTCHA .. but it does.
jg: would like to take another
shot at the example based on the current text
... have some ideas how to organize the example so more
useful
... will try to get done by friday
jn: got rid of tables
... removed the section linking to aria spec and just linked
the term
aa: we called it out specifically before
jn: editorial decision. Doesn't
change the text of the document
... need to have the document to be consistent
tb: how about an intro section.
jn: assuming anyone reads it
tb: we have to assume some level of intelligence
bg: how about changing to banner role
jg: more concerned about linking from the spec to the APG
jn: I don't think we can link from the spec to the APG
tb: sometimes i find too many words loses the crispness of things
aa: people who are not savvy to w3c things aren't aware that there is a difference between the APG and the spec
tb: that is an issue beyond
this
... a few lines in this document - how to use this docuemnt
jn: i was wrong about not being
able to link to the APG from the spec
... my opinion is that making links to the spec called-out
explicitly just makes the document longer and not more
clear.
JG: something like really good
examples will get linked to
... most people will come through the examples
... the oaa website can just fwd people to the w3c examples
JN: removed patterns row heading
and moved into prose in the top.
... then added HTML5 techniques and ARIA techniques sub
heading
... <making changes live>
JG: first bullet - Break the page into perceivable areas of content.
JN: good with that
TB: what is the value of 2nd bullet
AA: could help define landmarks?
TB: I don't know what it means
<Birkir> .. landmarks are a way to create same division of content programmatically, e.g. for those who are unable to see the visual distinction.
JG: to me this brings in
designers
... we want to not just talk to developers but also
designers
TB: <li>Break the page into perceivable areas of content which typically, designers indicate visually using alignment and spacing.</li>
JN: sold
JN: any updates?
no
jn: does anyone know anything about mathml?
aa: i know nothing about mathml
BG: MSFT said they will not
support it. The Moz implementation has >130 issues logged
against it which makes it unuseable
... most use mathjax
JG: LaTEX and MathML are the 2 used
JN: Q is what does role=math
mean
... I don't think we have expertise in Math
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/290
JN: need to either fix the example or remove it. Need a good math example for role=math (if one exists).
JG: need to find out if it helps
anyone or not
... being in higher ed math is a big deal
... have people doing things with accessible math
... have some specialists in this
BG: I worked in accessible math
for a while
... so i can do some of that
JN: editors are looking for
recommendations as to how to resolve this
... please make updates in issue 290
JG: everyone says you need to use mathjax for math on the web
JN: need to ensure that we don't
over-complicate things
... thanks Jon and Birkir
<jongund> I need to go today
https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/323
<MichielBijl> @annabbott, if you go to https://github.com/; there is a form on the frontpage
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