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15:49:01 Zakim, this will be 63342
15:49:01 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
15:49:02 Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:49:02 Date: 01 March 2016
15:49:35 present+ paulc
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16:03:04 Zakim, who is on the call?
16:03:04 Present: paulc, ddorwin, MattWolenetz, jdsmith, markw, plh
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16:05:04 subject is "RE: Media Extensions WG Editors meeting, Tue Mar 1"
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16:08:44 scribe: plh
16:08:57 Topic: . MSE and EME issues: how do we spend the next 3 months?
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16:09:47 Paul: we went from mid-40s to 28 on open issues for EME
16:09:59 ... but we haven't made much progress on MSE at all
16:10:28 ... can we divide the issues into v1 and v2?
16:10:37 https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/milestones/V1
16:11:29 Matt: for MSE, quite a few of issues are in V1
16:11:53 Paul: we have a couple of accessibility items filed in January
16:11:58 ... filed by plh
16:12:02 present+ davide
16:12:03 ... didn't get attention
16:13:11 Matt: my goal is to work on the stream work, because of mixed content
16:13:27 ... if mixed content doesn't happen soon, it's a mute point for MSE
16:14:05 ... issue #22
16:14:28 ... right now, MSE doesn't work with mixed conent
16:15:27 ... stream is #14
16:16:05 Jerry: I also support taking on #14
16:16:49 Jerry: we should be careful not to have breaking changes in v2
16:17:29 Paul: we should put forward a call for consensus to the group to push some of the issues to v2
16:18:04 ... so the editors need to go through the issues and get consensus on which ones are v2
16:20:47 plh: unless we get the implementations updated for appendStream by mid-June, we can't ship a REC in September with appendStream in it
16:22:26 Matt: for #14, appendStream needs to make it work with current version
16:22:47 plh: we can mark it as risk
16:23:05 Paul: only at risk was the total frame
16:23:48 ... so we'd have to move to the next process or do the old process mojo
16:26:26 Paul: what about EME? v1 vs v2?
16:27:14 David: biggest one is the key rotation with initData
16:27:20 ... we tried to move it to v2
16:27:28 Key rotation is ISSUE-132
16:28:04 ... some are registry items
16:28:05 https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+no%3Amilestone
16:28:54 Paul: Travis is working with Alex on the key rotation issue
16:29:26 ... your questions on that decision are quite apropos
16:30:49 plh: for initData, same thing. unless we have implementations by mid-June, that's a v2
16:30:58 InitData Issue-149: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/149
16:31:06 Jerry: I'm looking at ways to postpone things to v2
16:32:26 Paul: I'd like to see a strawman proposal of what's in v1 and v2
16:32:34 ... for MSE and EME
16:32:44 ... so that we know where to draw the line
16:32:56 ... so that plh has this evidence for the AC meeting
16:34:36 ... please let me and plh know if some of the issues can be addressed by the team
16:36:14 Paul: get agreement on which issues are v1 and v2
16:37:51 plh: for v1/v2, we need the spec and implementation updates
16:38:05 ... if we can't get the list within 2 weeks, we might have to do calls to get it
16:38:42 Paul: I wanted the v1 and v.next and the summary in my hand
16:39:36 Paul: adding a comment to explain why v.next would be good as well
16:40:47 ?: posting a summary of the line in the sand would be helpful
16:41:10 Topic: Testing and implementations
16:41:23 Matt: still pending within Google
16:41:52 Paul: maybe copy Alex Russell
16:42:16 ... but we still have a deficit on the testing
16:43:58 plh: I'm asking Yosuke to make progress on the test suite
16:44:54 Mark: if you want to stay in v1, you'd need concrete proposals and concrete implementation plans
16:48:20 David: we do have tests for EME
16:48:31 ... they are clearKey and only webm
16:49:29 Paul: don't we need some content?
16:49:58 David: there is content indeed and that can be used
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16:50:28 David: writing the tests is the bulk of the work
16:51:18 Jerry: I can see what we can do to help
16:51:49 Paul: could david and jerry take the question of EME testing offline?
16:52:33 jerry: ok
16:52:58 Mark: we can propose some content if necessary
16:53:15 ... would need to work with some of the drm providers
16:54:10 Topic: MSE and EME dependencies
16:56:36 plh: I'm asking Yosuke to look at the dependencies
16:56:45 Paul: are we ok on WebIDL?
16:57:25 David: we have iterable https://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL-1/#idl-iterable
16:58:38 plh: as far as I know, we're good on WebIDL
16:59:17 Topic: next checkup
16:59:33 Paul: I'll propose to meet in 2 weeks unless we have enough data
17:00:39 rrsagent, generate minutes
17:00:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/01-html-media-minutes.html plh
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