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<david_000> test
Kathy: overview: working group feedback by end of this month
<david_000> will you screen share?
<Alan_s> Please provide webex password,thanks
<Alan_s> I have not recieved a github invite
Jeanne: best practice giving key members of the working group access to Github directly to save time. Sent invitations inviting everyone become editor – accept invitation and you will have more direct access to the repository
<jeanne> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-TF-Note
Jeanne: two repositories for this
group – the techniques are under last year's repo because we
started working on these in 2014. That's where all the
techniques are
... you've got two views of any repo. The Github pages view –
to read. The Github repo view you can edit the files. So you
have a file to read in a file to edit and they are different
URLs.
... The readme filein the main repo page has step-by-step
directions on how to edit a technique
... looking at template, which is in M000. Has code already
there. You don't need to know HTML in order to edit the
technique. Anything that's in All Caps something that you
should be changing or editing (make sure not to edit template
file)
... edit anything in capital letters – title, short name,
status – put in the name of your technique and your name, if
you have a link to the survey etc.
... Click on pencil in top right to edit file – that's what
giving you editor capabilities did
... so don't touch the HTML code, but just type replacing
capital letters
Jan: is there an easy way to view?
Jeanne: different URL
Jon: the difference is the extension is .io – after you save look at .io
Jeanne: on the assignments list
there are links to both in techniques column – the initial link
is read, the one at the end is the edit link
... that link is also on the homepage of the Github repo
... you can go into a forked copy, but it's easier if you use
the pencil
Establishing that you need to have permission to use the pencil on the main fork – everyone should have permission. Hover over pencil, if it says edit this file you are all set
Jeanne: here's the wiki page with
the technique development assignments
... the page also has links to instructions, Github etc.
... There will also be a wiki page link for each technique –
you can use that instead of Github. It will be the same
template.
... or you can use the wiki page for email, whatever you
want
Discussing logistics
<Kathy> http://kwahlbin.github.io/Mobile-A11y-Extension/#touch-navigation
Above URL that we were using – this is going to change
<david_000> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-TF-extention
<Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-Extension
Kathy's link is correct
<david_000> https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-Extension
Kathy: there's a forked copy up there which is going to be going away
<david_000> I'm here... https://github.com/w3c/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/gh-pages/index.html
Jeanne: please don't edit the
extension right now – only edit the techniques. Very important.
The techniques are in the note repository not the extension
repository. Only Kathy and I will work on the extension
category. So everyone else working on just techniques
... this may change in the future but for right now no one else
should edit the extension
... Paragraph goes right under the success criteria – trying to
avoid anyone else having to deal with WCAG XML.
... make sure to just copy and paste text – no blanket copy and
paste. Make sure to avoid making any changes to the code
Kathy: any other issues or
questions about this?
... thanks everybody for giving this a try
Kathy: the ones we just signed
before the break aren't in the list yet
... in the minutes right before the break
... any questions or concerns about getting your technique done
in the next two weeks
... I think everyone on this call has been assigned a technique
but if you don't have one let me know. I'm going to concentrate
on writing the understanding pieces of the document
Detlev: looking at assignments page – don't know about M027 error messages
Jeanne: that one belongs to Alistair
Detlev: I just deleted those – need to be stored in the wiki
Kathy: added techniques for
2.5.1, I need to add those in.
... we are looking at getting the techniques and failures done
underneath each
<Kathy> https://w3c.github.io/Mobile-A11y-Extension/
Kathy: guideline 2.1 touch and
pointer, looking to finish this. Need to get the techniques
done in the next two weeks so we can review so the WCAG working
group can start looking at it
... questions
Alistair: M0015?
Kathy: concentrating on touch and pointer – going down list
<david_000> drop in a link
Jon: doing 2.5.3 failure
Alistair: taking M0015
Kathy: will send email to the list with the assignments
Technique Development Assignments link:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Technique_Development_Assignments
will be updated
<david_000> december discussions http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Dec/
Kathy: android says 48 DP and iOS says pixels –
<jon_avila> I got kicked off the call
so did I
<david_000> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Dec/0045.html
<jon_avila> * me either
<Alan_s> my call keeps dropping also
David: 44 pixels very specific in iOS context
Kathy: a pixel is the visual
angle, DP is the same at some distance – common confusion
point
... someone else has a conversion one DPI equals .75 pixels
<Kathy> ldpi: 1 dp = 0.75 px mdpi: 1 dp = 1 px hdpi: 1 dp = 1.5 px xhdpi: 1 dp = 2 px xxhdpi: 1 dp = 3 px xxxhdpi: 1 dp = 4 px
Kathy: depends on resolution, depends on device
<Kathy> http://androidpixels.net/
Kathy: link showing conversions
<jon_avila> * I have to jump off as I have another meeting.
Jan: there's a way once the device has told you how far it assumes from the person's eyes to convert
Kathy: may be more research on this so we can pick up and talk about this next time – I'll do more research as well. I'll also send out the list of assignments and techniques that we've got so far and we can go from there.
Jeanne: I added five more techniques to the chart and five new blank templates to github
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