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<AWK> +AWK
<Wayne> +wayne
<JohnRochford> I love awards
<Wayne> how do I dial in or use webex. I have been trying for 15 minutes and I don't want to miss this meeting.
<shawn> s/how do I dial in or use webex. I have been trying for 15 minutes and I don't want to miss this meeting. /
<Ryladog> trying to connect audio
<Wayne> could you dial me.
<Alan_Smith> Just joining in on irc. There are two different phone number acccess codes in last meeting invite and they both do not work
<Wayne> Wayne 562-256-4458
<Wayne> No 562 493 8210, I'm flustered
<Wayne> I hung up by accident.
<Alan_Smith> updating my calendar entry and downloading webex as this is first time I got in on new tablet.
<Ryladog> W3C number +1-617-324-0000 is "not in service"?
<shawn> katie - see my e-mail with passcode correction
<Ryladog> ok
<Ryladog> thanks
<shawn> meeting code correction
<Ryladog> Yes I am on that one but the audio does not work and the W3C call in number is out of service
<Alan_Smith> ok, what is correct phone number to dial in on.
<shawn> +alan
<Ryladog> Im in, user error, I was using the old W3C number
<scribe> Scribe: Laura
<allanj> https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/3
Wayne: Table from Texas School is
inreresting.
... Observation functional limits come in clusters.
... Documenting how things work together. Completed functional
limits.
<shawn> fyi http://www.tsbvi.edu/eye-conditions
Wayne: could prepare a table.
<allanj> ontology diagram - http://www.nosetothepage.org/WCAG/LVTF/Ontology/images/TopER.png
<allanj> +1 to table
Wayne: We want to look at
functional limits not the medical model.
... tracked Macular Degeneration
... Main barriers: Legibility, readability, Layout and Viewport
Capacity
... interested in pursuing further
... has taken a lot of time.
<allanj> john: ontology apply to mobile and non-mobile
John: Does it apply to mobile and non mobile?
wayne: yes and no
... same barriers in multiple ways.
John: Could you explain way finding?
Wayne: getting around the
screen.
... we could change the term for location proximity issues
Shawn: impressed
... thinking about the terminology
<JohnRochford> Correction: John knows what wayfinding is, but wanted to know how Wayne was relating it to the ontology. Wayne explained he is using Wayfinding as an analogy.
Shawn: Regarding table, Can we use first 2 columns - and change the last column to user interface or such?
Wayne: yes. That is the goal.
<allanj> +1 to changing third column on http://www.tsbvi.edu/eye-conditions, IT considerations or Information Access considerations
Wayne: Will put updates out
there.
... 90 percent functional limits.
... Certain clusters occur repeatedly.
... Will work on table.
Jim: that would be great.
<allanj> close item 5
<allanj> close item 6
<shawn> ACTION: shawn look at categories in Wayne's ontology with what we have so far [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Look at categories in wayne's ontology with what we have so far [on Shawn Henry - due 2015-12-16].
Jim: likes the concept of
Perceptual Area
... Pictures are useful to illustrate
... 1 question on of field loss and size limitations.
Wayne: think we need both.
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say zoom & large text results in smaller amount of info..
Wayne: Wayne: 2 different kinds of accommodations.
Shawn: More than scrolling left or right.
<allanj> shawn: no field loss, but low acuity, then increase text size, then user has smaller viewport even if all text wraps. still have smaller viewport
Shawn: Issues can persist even with scrolling.
Wayne: under visual accuracy is
limited content
... Perceptual areas does occur with tunnel vision.
<allanj> wayne: add restricted viewport to clarity section
<allanj> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Overview_of_Low_Vision#Clarity_.28Visual_acuity.29
Jim: I worked on this section.
Came out late last night.
... Low vision is a continuum.
Wayne: This is good.
<allanj> ACTION: jim to add para to Clarity expanding magnification reduces perceptual area [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Add para to clarity expanding magnification reduces perceptual area [on Jim Allan - due 2015-12-16].
<allanj> inverse square relationship, as magnification goes up, perceptual area is reduced
<shawn> I suggest that we do include info on legibility vs. readability -- I have some write up on that I'll stick in...
<shawn> good point, Jim!
Jim: Functional disease has
nothing to do with your numbers.
... may want to bring that out here.
... functioning is separate and apart.
<shawn> thanks for scribing, Laura!
<allanj> visual functioning is different from disease, and acuity numbers
trackbot, end meeting
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