IRC log of auto on 2015-10-26

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Meeting: Automotive WG f2f Meeting in Sapporo - Day 1

00:11:07 [ted]

[agenda review]

00:11:11 [ted]

Topic: Introductions

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scribenick: ted

00:11:49 [wonsuk_]

Present+ Wonsuk_Lee

00:12:06 [ted]

Shinjiro Urata, Access

00:12:14 [ted]

Junichi Hashimoto, KDDI

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Tatsuhiko Hirabayashi, KDDI

00:13:01 [kaz]

Present: Shinjiro_Urata, Junichi_Hashimoto, Tatsuhiko_Hirabayashi, Kaz_Ashimura, Adam_Abramski, Paul_Boyes, Yinying_Chen, Qing_An, Kevin_Gavigan, Adam_Crofts, Peter_Winzell, Ted Guild, Wonsuk Lee, Daisuke_Ajitomi, Hidenobu_Ito, Kosuke_Nagano, Toru_Kawaguchi, Mikio_Sasaki, Jet_Villegas, Hiroto_Inoshita, J_Alan_Bird, Junichi_Sakamoto, Hirotaka_Kajita, Shintaro_Uchida

00:13:30 [ted]

Kazuyuki Ashimura, W3C

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Adam Abramski, Intel

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Paul Boyes, OpenCar

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Yingying Chen, W3C

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Qing An, Alibaba

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Kevin Gavigan, JLR

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Adam Crofts, JLR

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Peter Winzell, Mitsubishi

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Ted Guild, W3C

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Wonsuk Lee, ETRI

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Daisuke Ajitomi, @@1

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Hidenobu Ito, @@2

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@@3_second_row_names

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Topic: Agenda

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00:21:07 [ted]

Adam: review spec process, timeline check, what needs to be done

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... if it is interesting to the group give a summary of the BG meeting and presentation Paul, Ted and I made at Genivi AMM session

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... implementations and testing (both required by the specs)

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... Generic Sensor API

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s/or API/or API with Tobie Langel/

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... Security, possibly engage with some WoT folks this or tomorrow afternoon

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Present: Shinjiro_Urata(ACCESS), Junichi_Hashimoto(KDDI), Tatsuhiko_Hirabayashi(KDDI), Kaz_Ashimura(W3C), Adam_Abramski(Intel), Paul_Boyes(OpenCar), Yinying_Chen(W3C), Qing_An(Alibaba), Kevin_Gavigan(JLR), Adam_Crofts(JLR), Peter_Winzell(MELCO), Ted Guild(W3C), Wonsuk Lee(ETRI), Shintaro_Uchida(AptPod), Hirotaka_Kajita (AptPod), Junichi_Sakamoto(AptPod), Daisuke_Ajitomi(Toshiba), Hyejin_Lee(HTML5_Convergence_Forum), Hidenobu_Ito(Fujitsu), Kosuke_Nagano(ACCESS),

00:24:14 [kaz]

Toru_Kawaguchi(Panasonic), Mikio_Sasaki(Mitsubishi_Electric), Jet_Villegas(Mozilla), Hiroto_Inoshita(Keio_Univ.), J_Alan_Bird(W3C)

00:24:24 [kaz]

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00:24:37 [ted]

... tomorrow morning is pretty busy with breakout session starting with Web Payments in room 206 (2nd floor)

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00:25:26 [ted]

... after we will liaise with Geolocation back in this room

00:25:53 [ted]

... both sessions have detailed agenda [on screen and in email archives]

00:26:45 [kaz]

Present+ Toru_Kawaguchi(Panasonic), Mikio_Sasaki(Mitsubishi_Electric), Jet_Villegas(Mozilla), Hiroto_Inoshita(Keio_Univ.), J_Alan_Bird(W3C)

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00:26:50 [ted]

... after lunch meeting with TV Control API CG who is working with us on Media Tuner API (BG activity) and avoid duplicating work

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Chair: Adam_Abramski, Paul_Boyes

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s/@@1/Toshiba/

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s/@@2/Fujitsu/

00:28:40 [ted]

Topic: Specifications Update

00:28:57 [ted]

Paul: we have had a flurry of activity, reviewing and resolving issues

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... although there are still some outstanding issues it is quieting down

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... we need to move on our timeline toward REC

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... we are required to have at least two implementations to advance in W3C specification status

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ted: explains how to use the W3C Github repository, and ask if we could remove the master branch and use the gh-pages branch for spec publication

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present+ Cheon_Kwan_Ho(HTML5_Convergence_Forum), YooJoo_Yeol(HTML5_Convergence_Forum)

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00:39:52 [ted]

-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2015Oct/0003.html Proposal to switch to gh-pages branch for Echidna

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Resolved: editors and chairs agree to accept proposal to switch to gh-pages for automated publishing

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Paul asks JLR about implementation status

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Adam and Kevin will get confirmation from Paul Wheller before sharing

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00:43:07 [ted]

Paul: about the infamous issue 32, in spite of the back and form I believe the current status is to stay as is due to existing [partial] implementations

00:43:51 [ted]

Wonsuk: we left it for now but wanted to discuss with Tobie and GeoLocation WG to get their advice which we can do this week as part of our breakout sessions

00:44:44 [ted]

... we can also defer until a later stage in the recommendation process (as it tends to get more attention and review then)

00:45:14 [ted]

Paul: there are a few outstanding issues

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Adam: one is contingent on issue 32 refactoring

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00:47:33 [ted]

https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/56

00:51:04 [ted]

action ted to close issue 56 as out of scope/not relevant to our WG based on conversations/understanding from JLR and Volvo at Genivi

00:51:05 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-10 - Close issue 56 as out of scope/not relevant to our wg based on conversations/understanding from jlr and volvo at genivi [on Ted Guild - due 2015-11-02].

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00:52:19 [ted]

[based on JLR RVI proposal and Gunnar explanation of where in the stack offline/wakeup interactions will take place - outside of web runtime]