IRC log of annotation on 2015-10-14

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be 2666
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Web Annotation Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 14 October 2015
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Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
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Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
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Regrets+ Rob_Sanderson, Ivan_Herman, Ray_Denenberg, Paolo_Ciccarese
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Oct/0045.html
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Regrets+ Ben_De_Meester
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Regrets+ Chris_Birk
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fjh has changed the topic to: agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Oct/0045.html
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Present+ Jacob_Jett
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15:08:42 [shepazu]
present+ shepazu
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present+ TB_Dinesh
15:09:04 [TimCole]
Benjamin will be joining late, I think.
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ScribeNick: fjh
15:09:20 [takeshi]
Present+ Takeshi
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Present+ Tim_Cole
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Topic: Agenda Review, Scribe Selection, Announcements
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fjh: Teleconference status - Wed 21 October (regrets Frederick)
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shepazu: can chair if Rob cannot if a call is warranted
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fjh: No teleconference Wed 28 October (TPAC week, F2F is Mon-Tue 26-27 Oct)
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Topic: Minutes Approval
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RESOLUTION: Minutes from 7 September approved, with correction as noted https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Oct/0044.html
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Topic: Model
15:11:23 [fjh]
fjh: WD publication request in and approved so expect it to be published tomorrow. Thanks to Rob and Benjamin
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Topic: FindText
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s/FindText/WD publications/
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shepazu: shouldn't we have a CfC before WD publications
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fjh: it depends, thought the group agreed this time not ot have a CfC
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fjh: if the automated WD publciation is used then CfCs are not typically used, so this is similar to that model
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fjh: depends on whether we put changes into draft with agreement or agree after put in
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shepazu: that is Editors Draft model
15:16:13 [davis_salisbury]
present+ davis_salisbury
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shepazu: think we should have consensus for WDs
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fjh: understand that point of view, we just need to be clear
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shepazu: will send email
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Topic: FindText
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shepazu: CfC for publication of FWPD of FindText ends today
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shepazu: do you understand what it is
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davis_salisbury: yes, have been keeping up
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shepazu: no objections to CfC
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... WebApps closed, now Web Platform WG
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... talked with chairs of Web Platform, they are ok with publication of FindText
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q+ to ask about publication prep who and publication request
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... three points on draft, went to promises, search vs searchAll, return value
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... ongoing discussion will continue
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... 2nd bill hunt asked about RegEx capability as input type, search for patterns, maybe but concerned about performance when combined with edit distance
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... edit distance is a priority
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... suggested Bill raise issue on github
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... 3rd Google person suggestion
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.. concerns with serialization method, suggested text iteration api
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... as basis
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s/.. concerns/... concerns/
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... so might need to define another serializer, more work, but might be improvement
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q?
15:23:03 [fjh]
ack fjh
15:23:03 [Zakim]
fjh, you wanted to ask about publication prep who and publication request
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fjh: who will do publication prep and publication request
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shepazu: I will unless you want to do publication request
15:25:06 [fjh]
fjh: no that is ok, will assume you will prepare and do publication request, also transition request
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shepazu: that works, I will do these three things
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q?
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Topic: TPAC
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fjh: chairs need to complete agenda, in progress, have wiki
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fjh: any comments, concerns re agenda
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shepazu: suggestions for agenda items
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fjh: will proceed offline with that
15:27:00 [fjh]
fjh: I updated wiki to reflect coordination
15:27:02 [tbdinesh_]
is there a link to the agenda for Anno WG at TPAC
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https://www.w3.org/annotation/wiki/Meetings
15:27:29 [tbdinesh_]
tnx
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Digpub (TBD) - Use Cases [ 3pm Monday ]
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time set for internationalization, see email
15:28:14 [fjh]
question re TAG and tell Harry re social web
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fjh: I thought I had sent message to tag, but cannot find on list
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shepazu: ask about protocol and also FindText
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fjh: will re-send
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shepazu: want feedback on whether we are doing the right thing architecurally
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bye bye
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15:32:10 [fjh]
fjh: Thanks everyone
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/14-annotation-minutes.html fjh
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s/Benjamin will be joining late, I think.//
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s/WD publications/WD publication process/
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s/ thought//
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s/ot have/to have/
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s/publciation/publication/
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s/UNKNOWN_SPEAKER/shepazu/
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s/ three points /three known discussion points/
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s/known/open/
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s/three things/three things, probably should plan for publication next Tuesday 20 October/
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i/bye bye/Topic: Other Business/
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i/bye bye/fjh: no other business noted/
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Topic: Adjourn
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/14-annotation-minutes.html fjh
15:43:54 [shepazu]
s/q?/Resolution: we will publish the FindText API as FPWD/
15:44:06 [shepazu]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/14-annotation-minutes.html shepazu
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15:45:54 [shepazu]
fjh, please note that I added the Resolution to publish to the minutes, and that that's what should be sent to the mailing list
15:46:27 [shepazu]
fjh, I'll send the minutes
15:46:52 [fjh]
no, i just did them
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i'm sending them out now
15:47:14 [fjh]
shepazu, I just did the minutes, so don't bother but thanks
15:47:42 [fjh]
I'll put the reolution in right now, but I've just edited them etc
15:47:54 [shepazu]
fjh, did you include the resolution to publish? I'll need that for the pub request
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shepazu: doing it right now though I think we don't need it since we had a sucessful CfC
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do you really think we need it
15:48:55 [shepazu]
fjh, yes, it's part of the pub approval process for FPWD
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ok
15:49:05 [fjh]
i put it in and will send
15:51:43 [shepazu]
thanks
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