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<kerry> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 30 September 2015
<phila> Chair: Kerry
<phila> NB. Two members of the CEO-LD project are observing the call today - Maik Riechert from the University of Reading (colleague of Jon Blower) and Chunming Hu (W3C)
<phila> scribe: Alejandro_Llaves
<kerry> scribe+ allejandro
<kerry> scribenick: alejandro
<kerry> scribe+ alejandro
<jtandy> +1 (also from phila )
<kerry> http://www.w3.org/2015/09/23-sdw-minutes.html
<kerry> +1
<joshlieberman> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<billroberts> +1
RESOLUTION: approve minutes
<kerry> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
<Alejandro_Llaves> Phil: Where are looking at the editors draft
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... last week there was a meeting in Sao Paulo
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... It is difficult to set the scope of a BP document
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The group agreed on what URIs are
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The document includes various assumptions about how a URI is defined. Always subject to change
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Rather than reinventing the wheel, we used some relevant documents from the Web, with examples.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Phil thinks this can be useful for the group.
<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: One thing I would like to see is a clear distinction between an identifier and a locator, because the needs are not the same in both cases.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Question to Phil about granularity
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: If I have a dataset about things, I want URIs to identify the dataset.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... I don't think there is much distinction between an identifier and a locator.
<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: An identifier doesn't need to have the locator structure. Often, a locator needs a certain navigation pattern, that an identifier does not need.
<joshlieberman> +1 Identifiers can and should be recognizable even if locators should be treated as opaque for navigation.
<Alejandro_Llaves> eparsons: URIs can be plain identifiers, but there is an added value in designing good well-structured URIs
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: Agree!
<kerry> +1 to jon's comment
<Alejandro_Llaves> jonblower: We need to separate the idea of human readibility from client readibility.
<joshlieberman> Could those not speaking please mute. Thanks!
<billroberts> http://ukgovld.github.io/ukgovldwg/recommendations/uri-patterns.html
<Alejandro_Llaves> billroberts: In Data on the Web draft there was an update about URI patterns
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... I don't know what is the status of the document, but it worths a read.
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: I did not link to that document in the draft because it seems it is not finished, from the github repo.
<jtandy> (I'm happy that the DWBP identifier practices apply to SDW)
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: We met yesterday and this morning.
<phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/ceo-ld/wiki/London_Kick_Off_meeting
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The meeting went well.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The goal of this group is to foster collaboration between UK and China.
<Alejandro_Llaves> We talked about similar things that Jeremy was pointing in his email (?)
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: We talked about satellite image, i.e. coverage.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... We talked about how to describe coverage, which does not mean this is not solved.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Another topic was Identifiers: how you refer to the different levels of granularity related to access.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... We discussed about formats, e.g. CSV on the Web, DataCube... How webby are they?
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... The geotemporal dimension of the different formats we looked at seems to be 2D
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Some issues were identified, that will be solved in the near future. Some of the people attending will be in Sapporo.
<Alejandro_Llaves> Sorry, I don't know who is talking...
<Alejandro_Llaves> thanks
<Alejandro_Llaves> MaikRiechert: GeoDCAT could be a good testbed for our project MELODIES
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: There are some issues important to coverage data that need to be discussed first in the SDW group first
<Alejandro_Llaves> eparsons: Is the output of the CEO-LD group publish-able as part of the SDW BP document?
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: The CEO-LD can offer advise, but the SDW group should decide what to publish.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Citizen science and gamification could be the way of advance in the CEO-LD group
<kerry> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/
<phila> action-79?
<trackbot> action-79 -- Jeremy Tandy to Create thread for each linking theme -- due 2015-09-30 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/79
<phila> action-78?
<trackbot> action-78 -- Jon Blower to Provide text around value add of following the bps -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/78
<Alejandro_Llaves> jonblower: I need to catch on my action
<phila> action-75?
<trackbot> action-75 -- Joshua Lieberman to Ask tesbed email list to proide pointers to content we should knpow -- due 2015-09-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/75
<Alejandro_Llaves> joshlieberman: I need to catch on my action
<phila> action-72?
<trackbot> action-72 -- Ed Parsons to Create appropriate wiki page -- due 2015-09-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/72
<phila> close action-72
<trackbot> Closed action-72.
<phila> close action-71
<trackbot> Closed action-71.
<phila> close action-63
<trackbot> Closed action-63.
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: I could not meet her yet, but hopefully this happens soon. - Related to Phil's action. (which one?)
<phila> action-60?
<trackbot> action-60 -- Kerry Taylor to Follow up with svg -- due 2015-08-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/60
<kerry> Reminder Sapporo meeting starts 26 October: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings#Sapporo
<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: The accommodation arrangements should be done ASAP. We will discuss the agenda on the next meeting.
<kerry> The 7 discussion threads of best practice linking: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Sep/0044.html
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Thanks to the contributors!
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: As editors, we need the group feedback and comments.
<phila> crickets...
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Are there any questions or clarifications that we can discuss now?
<Alejandro_Llaves> <tumbleweed>
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Don't be shy about replying to the different email threads I sent around, because this will be the basic input for the document.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Only 3 weeks away to TPAC, so please put your content in.
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... Topics being discussed:
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... - One identifier to several spatial objects
<Alejandro_Llaves> ... - There has been also some discussion on the linking aspect of spatial data.
<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: When do you want the comments by?
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Max. by mid October
<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: In Sapporo we could look at the relation between the present content and the Requirements document.
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Agree!
<Alejandro_Llaves> Yes, I will!
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Task - Map reqs to the BP themes.
<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: Also, take into account open issues on the track.
<kerry> actions: alejandro to map use cases to bp themes
<Alejandro_Llaves> Ok, no prob!
<kerry> ACTION: kerry to map use cases to bp themes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/09/30-sdw-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Map use cases to bp themes [on Kerry Taylor - due 2015-10-07].
<Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about themes
<Alejandro_Llaves> phila: This idea of "themes" arose during a meeting last week, e.g. discoverability, etc. Each best practice in our document will have one or more icons describing what the theme is about.
<kerry> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> jtandy: Good idea
<Alejandro_Llaves> kerry: Closing the meeting...
<eparsons> Bye !
<Alejandro_Llaves> thanks, bye!
<chunming> thank you all. bye
<Payam> thanks, bye
<kerry> bye!