IRC log of pf on 2015-09-23
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/09/23-pf-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 23 September 2015
- 15:58:42 [janina]
- agenda?
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- agenda cleared
- 15:58:58 [janina]
- agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
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- agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/
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- agenda+ Rechartering Progress [See Below]
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- agenda+ TPAC 2013 Update [See Below]
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- agenda+ ARIA.Next Items
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- agenda+ Other Task Force Updates; COGA; SVG; HTML-A11Y--HTML Reorganization
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273
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- agenda+ be done
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- present+ janina
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
- 16:01:29 [joanie]
- present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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- present+ fesch
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- scribe: fesch
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- cs: is going to TPAC and bringing family
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]
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- regrets: shane, gottfried
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0149.html
- 16:12:31 [fesch]
- mc: we should report comments d and e as a group
- 16:12:36 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
- 16:13:04 [janina]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0149.html
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- js: anyone to object sending d & e?
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- RESOLUTION: MC to send comments d & e for PF
- 16:17:36 [MichaelC]
- close action-1654
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- Closed action-1654.
- 16:17:45 [MichaelC]
- action-1654: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0228.html
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- Notes added to action-1654 Take preliminary look at discovery & registration of multimodal modality components: state handling http://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
- 16:19:38 [MichaelC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/css-round-display-1/ CSS Round Display Level 1
- 16:23:15 [MichaelC]
- action: Fred to review CSS Round Display FPWD http://www.w3.org/TR/css-round-display-1/
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- Created ACTION-1728 - Review css round display fpwd http://www.w3.org/tr/css-round-display-1/ [on Fred Esch - due 2015-09-30].
- 16:23:37 [MichaelC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/css-text-4/ CSS Text Module Level 4
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- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/css-ui-4/ CSS Basic User Interface Module Level 4
- 16:28:36 [fesch]
- mc: appendix B!
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- mc: basic user interface module has Appendix B changes, Text Module does not
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- mc: user interface has only 4 new features, should we wait for more maturity/changes?
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- RESOLUTION: mc to send note asking for appendix B on Text Module
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/" taken up [from janina]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5. "Rechartering Progress" taken up [from See Below]
- 16:35:47 [fesch]
- mc: making adjustments to charters, to address comments, mc Rich and Janina has a few more things to review, maybe have draft charters for review...
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6. "TPAC 2013 Update" taken up [from See Below]
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- s/2013/2015/
- 16:38:37 [fesch]
- mc: forwarded to list note about hotels
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- mc: anyone planning to go that does not have their travel done?
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- mk: Matt King hasn't done it yet
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- discussion on who is going for ARIA
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- mk: do we know what we are doing for PF?
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- js: I want to discuss this...,
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- rs: when is web components meet?
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- js: Monday and Tuesday
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- rs: who do we coordinate with?
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- js: not sure what is set up yet?
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- rs: hard to address comments when there is no other group on the other end...
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- js: want to bring this up in the task force call tomorrow
- 16:48:14 [janina]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA
- 16:48:20 [fesch]
- js: two wiki pages where the issues are laid out...
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- rs: started working on dpub mapping guide, joanie going through list for linux
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- rs: can have a discussion on that...
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- rs: need to see if we get details and summary, if so maybe not need describedat...
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- js: if we get details and summary may see londesc deprecated
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- js: looking at the APA list any other concerns?
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- mk: anyway to know whether CSS will happen on Thursday?
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- js: not this week
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- mc: we need to figure what we want to talk about -user context stuff... may be enough to have a list of topics, discuss ahead of time..., questions issues
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- mc: nav order, read order is a big thing for us...
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- mc: we need to do our homework beforehand
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- mk: reading order
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- rs: really important APA meets with CSS....
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- discussion on navigation and read order...
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- rs: WCAG requires you to have a meaningful sequence, and flexbox doesn't do that,
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- mc: either we come up with a solution or get a basis for a formal objection
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- rs: I have been there before with canvas...
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- mk: I suggest face-to-face time to discuss when the read order does not give you a meaningful sequence...
- 17:00:29 [jamesn]
- +1 to that
- 17:00:35 [fesch]
- mk: may need a couple of hours
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- mc: we should consider doing that before TPAC
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- mc: can we do an extra teleconference?
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- rs: suggest Bo Campbell be included...
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- mc: better to prep before TPAC
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- mk: some situations, hard to do over the phone
- 17:02:26 [joanie]
- q+ to ask about Wednesday
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- js: we could do that on Thursday...
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- rs: want any time on Monday-Tuesday for authoring practices?
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- jn: not if we are the only two there...
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- q-
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- janina has changed the topic to: PF Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 30 September at 16:00Z; Webex 647 857 439 Passwd pfwg
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