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15:55:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
15:55:51 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
15:55:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
15:55:52 <trackbot> Date: 02 September 2015
15:56:26 <janina> agenda?
15:56:29 <JaEunJemmaKu> present + JaEunJemmaKu
15:56:30 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
15:56:30 <janina> agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open
15:56:30 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:56:30 <janina> agenda+ Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/
15:56:31 <janina> agenda+ Rechartering Progress [See Below]
15:56:33 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2013 Update [See Below]
15:56:35 <janina> agenda+ CSS UI Spec Review -- Cynthia
15:56:38 <janina> agenda+ ARIA.Next Items
15:56:40 <janina> agenda+  Other Task Force Updates; COGA; SVG; HTML-A11Y--HTML Reorganization
15:56:43 <janina> agenda+ Tracking Proposal -- Janina, Michael
15:56:45 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:56:48 <janina> agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273
15:56:51 <janina> agenda+ be done
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16:00:38 <janina>  zakim, next item
16:00:38 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
16:03:34 <janina> present+ Janina
16:03:55 <JaEunJemmaKu> present+ JemmaJaeunKu
16:04:12 <fesch> present+ fesch
16:04:32 <fesch> scribe: fesch
16:05:16 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC, Cynthia
16:06:01 <MichaelC> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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16:07:56 <fesch> js: any items, news?  Will take up Cynthia's item
16:08:41 <MichaelC> present+ John_Foliot
16:09:00 <JF> present+ JF
16:09:13 <fesch> zakim, close item
16:09:13 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', fesch
16:09:22 <fesch> zakim, close this item
16:09:22 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:09:23 <Zakim> I see 12 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:09:23 <Zakim> 2. Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open [from janina]
16:09:41 <fesch> zakim, take up item 7
16:09:41 <Zakim> agendum 7. "CSS UI Spec Review -- Cynthia" taken up [from janina]
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16:10:57 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0019.html
16:10:59 <Ryladog_> Present+ Katie Haritos-Shea
16:11:57 <fesch> cs: see email, mostly encouraging any questions?
16:12:28 <fesch> im-mode is being deprecated any concerns?
16:12:39 <fesch> s/im/ime/
16:13:30 <fesch> cs: can take up next week
16:13:58 <fesch> mc: we have until 7 October
16:14:34 <fesch> mc: looks like a couple of WCAG techniques that we may want to write...
16:16:33 <fesch> js: is our mechanism to convey to WCAG chairs?
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16:17:03 <fesch> mc: maybe put on wcag wiki techniques, should be a wiki page for css techniques
16:19:35 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/CSS
16:20:19 <richardschwerdtfeger> Present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:22:34 <fesch> all: introductions for Jemma
16:24:08 <fesch> zakim, take it item 3
16:24:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take it item 3', fesch
16:24:18 <fesch> zakim, take up item 3
16:24:18 <Zakim> agendum 3. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
16:26:10 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/css-grid-1/ CSS Grid Layout Module Level 1
16:26:41 <MichaelC> also see http://gridstylesheets.org/ Grid Style Sheets
16:27:07 <fesch> fe: what about looking at css grid
16:27:54 <fesch> jd: has colleges working on it, Bo of IBM has been looking at this ...
16:28:17 <fesch> rs: I don't know whether he is looking at Grid layouts or not
16:28:24 <fesch> jd: will look for email
16:28:53 <fesch> jd: maybe coordinate with bo on css grid (fred to ping Bo)
16:29:15 <fesch> zakim, take up item 2
16:29:15 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]
16:30:08 <MichaelC> close action-1682
16:30:08 <trackbot> Closed action-1682.
16:30:10 <MichaelC> close action-1683
16:30:10 <trackbot> Closed action-1683.
16:30:13 <fesch> mc: two actions to look at CSS Basic UI, Cynthia has done... can we close duplicate action?
16:31:14 <MichaelC> action-1669 due 2 weeks
16:31:14 <trackbot> Set action-1669 Look at data on the web best practices http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/ due date to 2015-09-16.
16:33:22 <MichaelC> action-1629 due 3 weeks
16:33:22 <trackbot> Set action-1629 Review manifest for a web application http://www.w3.org/tr/appmanifest/ due date to 2015-09-23.
16:33:26 <MichaelC> action-1648 due 3 weeks
16:33:26 <trackbot> Set action-1648 Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ due date to 2015-09-23.
16:34:09 <MichaelC> action-1615 due 1 week
16:34:09 <trackbot> Set action-1615 Review media capture and streams http://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-streams/ due date to 2015-09-09.
16:34:27 <MichaelC> action-1597 due 2 weeks
16:34:27 <trackbot> Set action-1597 Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ due date to 2015-09-16.
16:34:43 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:34:43 <Zakim> agendum 3. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
16:34:56 <fesch> zakim, close item
16:34:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', fesch
16:35:05 <fesch> zakim, close this item
16:35:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
16:35:06 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:35:06 <Zakim> 4. Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/ [from janina]
16:35:17 <fesch> zakim, next tiem
16:35:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next tiem', fesch
16:35:23 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:35:23 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/" taken up [from janina]
16:35:29 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/community/schemed/ Healthcare Schema Vocabulary Community Group
16:36:03 <fesch> js: anyone care about healthcare schema?
16:36:47 <JF> I'll also chime in to say that there *may* be a relationship here with the Schema.org work that Benetech has worked on in the past...
16:36:50 <fesch>  KS: schema needs to be WCAG level A compliant
16:37:56 <fesch> jf: there is work done with schema.org  that benetek  did, may be cognitive related... maybe need to keep an eye on it
16:38:19 <fesch> mc: looking at medical definitions....
16:38:53 <fesch> jf: don't need to help make definitions, but would be good to keep cognitive considerations in the definitions
16:39:38 <fesch> js: would expect a 1.1 or 2.0, because medical field is not static, so we could pick it up then, since we may not have the technical skills ...
16:39:43 <JaEunJemmaKu> I think there is 4th grade reading level requirement for medical definitions.
16:39:50 <fesch> mc: output might be interesting to follow
16:39:51 <JaEunJemmaKu> or 6th grade
16:40:36 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:40:36 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Rechartering Progress" taken up [from See Below]
16:41:04 <fesch> js: no news.... hope for news soon it is September...
16:42:04 <fesch> mc: decision policy is sticking point
16:42:19 <fesch> js: made draft decision policies...
16:42:49 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:42:49 <Zakim> agendum 6. "TPAC 2013 Update" taken up [from See Below]
16:43:15 <richardschwerdtfeger> q+
16:43:16 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/
16:43:31 <fesch> note topic is TPAC 2015 (not 2013)
16:44:28 <fesch> rs: since we don't have working group separated out, Rich and Janina should work together to make an agenda, need to know attendees
16:44:40 <fesch> mc: reads off attendees,
16:44:47 <fesch> rs: any browser vendors
16:44:58 <fesch> mc: Cynthia (MS)
16:45:09 <fesch> rs: Alex?
16:45:29 <fesch> rs: will ping Alex... will copy MC and JS
16:46:05 <fesch> rs: don't know when charter will be resolved...
16:46:47 <fesch> rs: would like to take time for API work
16:47:13 <fesch> rs/cs: 4 hours set aside
16:48:44 <fesch> rs: trying to get ARIA 1.1 done
16:49:02 <fesch> js: James you coming?
16:50:13 <fesch> jn: yes, but not sure enough members of authoring practices will be there to put that on the agenda
16:50:57 <fesch> js: IETS meets a week or two later in Yokohama
16:51:22 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:51:22 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, fesch
16:51:28 <janina> q?
16:51:33 <janina> ack rich
16:51:35 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:51:35 <Zakim> agendum 7. "CSS UI Spec Review -- Cynthia" taken up [from janina]
16:51:51 <fesch> zakim, close this item
16:51:51 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
16:51:52 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:51:52 <Zakim> 8. ARIA.Next Items [from janina]
16:51:56 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:51:56 <Zakim> agendum 8. "ARIA.Next Items" taken up [from janina]
16:52:34 <fesch> rs: we thought MC should take the first pass on testable statements and exit criteria
16:52:51 <fesch> mc: testable statements might be hard to do
16:53:07 <MichaelC> action: cooper to draft ARIA 1.1 CR exit criteria
16:53:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1719 - Draft aria 1.1 cr exit criteria [on Michael Cooper - due 2015-09-09].
16:53:10 <fesch> rs: point out what needs to be tested and we can farm them out
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16:53:47 <MichaelC> action: cooper to create plan for ARIA 1.1 testable statements, delegate some of them and write some of them
16:53:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1720 - Create plan for aria 1.1 testable statements, delegate some of them and write some of them [on Michael Cooper - due 2015-09-09].
16:54:09 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:54:09 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Other Task Force Updates; COGA; SVG; HTML-A11Y--HTML Reorganization" taken up [from janina]
16:54:42 <JF> Q+
16:55:05 <fesch> js: a little email between Chaals and myself on access key, more than the task force may want to look at it
16:56:21 <fesch> jf: sent email about transcripts , wiki page still a series of options, need to find support from browser implements, tk may be winding down. because of charter issues
16:56:28 <fesch> js: lets take up tomorrow
16:56:48 <JF> ack JF
16:56:56 <fesch> zakim, next item
16:56:56 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Tracking Proposal -- Janina, Michael" taken up [from janina]
16:57:41 <fesch> js: Michael's geek week, formalized tracking doesn't seem to will it be done soon
16:57:58 <fesch> mc: goal is to keep track of all activity with a given spec
16:58:52 <fesch> mc: on landing page, list of all specs we have ever looked at, then a wiki page for each spec with all emails we did...
16:59:08 <fesch> mc: that way we will have a history to use
17:00:03 <fesch> mc: when we go through new publications, we can look at stuff, and as we looked at specs, we would keep a live log.... value is when we come back to something 2 or 3 years later
17:00:21 <fesch> s/mc/js/
17:00:35 <fesch> cs: moving forward or archiving history
17:00:46 <fesch> js: archiving history would be pretty tough
17:01:24 <fesch> rss agent, make minutes
17:01:43 <fesch> rssagent make minutes
17:01:57 <fesch> rssagent, make minutes
17:02:04 <fesch> rssagent, draft minutes
17:02:20 <fesch> rrsagent, make minutes
17:02:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/09/02-pf-minutes.html fesch
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19:17:35 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: PF Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 9 September at 16:00Z; Webex 647 857 439 Passwd pfwg
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