17:07:17 RRSAgent has joined #aria-apg 17:07:17 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/08/31-aria-apg-irc 17:07:21 Zakim has joined #aria-apg 17:07:30 Meeting: ARIA APG TF 17:07:36 chair: MattKing 17:07:53 rrsagent, make log world 17:08:12 scribe: MichielBijl 17:08:15 Agenda+ Review planned sequence of pattern review https://github.com/w3c/aria/wiki/Aria-Authoring-Practices-Patterns-Status 17:08:27 Agenda+ Pattern text review for autocomplete and combobox http://w3c.github.io/aria/practices/aria-practices.html#autocomplete 17:10:08 Jon: main question regarding date pickers: currently the key combo to activate the date picker is alt+down arrow, is this consistent with combobox 17:11:12 jongund has joined #aria-apg 17:11:36 Matt: I published the priority plan for the code examples 17:13:41 Matt: I like the wiki pages for the list 17:14:01 Can I get a link to the table? 17:14:10 https://github.com/w3c/aria/wiki/Aria-Authoring-Practices-Patterns-Status 17:14:30 MichielBijl: problem is not everyone can edit 17:14:42 jamesn: keep it there, add agenda item each week 17:14:56 Jemma: I like that 17:15:02 MichielBijl: no problem with that 17:15:12 Matt: how far are we down the list 17:15:26 jamesn: I think we are around number 17 17:15:45 Matt: not sure we did menu/menu bar 17:16:59 jamesn: we need to create a hide/show pattern for autocomplete 17:17:06 http://oaa-accessibility.org/example/37/ 17:18:33 jamesn: keyboard support for accordions are impractical, Bryan also had some comments 17:19:06 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28917 17:19:23 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26254 17:19:55 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28916 17:19:56 s/autocomplete/accordion 17:20:37 Matt: do you want me to add a new item to the list for hide/show? 17:20:43 jamesn: yes please 17:20:49 Matt: I'll do that right now 17:22:24 MichielBijl has joined #aria-apg 17:24:43 jongund: we have quite a few landmark rules. With HTML5 people are creating landmarks without knowing it. So some guidance would be good. 17:25:08 Matt: we need someone to write an initial draft text 17:25:09 jongund: I could do that 17:25:39 jongund: what would be the best way to draft it? 17:25:50 Matt: create it in your repo, and make a pull request 17:27:13 MichielBijl: isn't hide/show a dependency for tabpanel? 17:27:23 MichielBijl: they are close in functionality 17:27:38 jamesn: they are, but we are going introduce a new version that isn't 17:29:46 Matt: so accordion is at a stage that we don't need another discussion before you can work on it? 17:29:57 jamesn: well, hide/show is essentially a new pattern 17:30:54 Matt: I noticed we have separate patterns for grid and sortable grid 17:31:47 Matt: Bryan you had some concerns about grid 17:32:50 Matt: wizard, draganddrop, richtext, and mediaplayer those are all discussion we will save for the end 17:34:50 jongund: I have a student who is going to help with examples 17:35:30 jongund: and Jemma is going to help with updating the examples 17:36:30 q+ 17:37:11 jongund: we will develop in Django, but will contribute to the aria repo 17:39:01 q- 17:39:28 jamesn: I don't see combobox having any open bugs 17:40:00 MichielBijl: is it reviewed? 17:40:08 jamesn: don't remember 17:40:11 MichielBijl: not on the status page 17:40:17 jamesn: no bugs either, so probably not 17:40:45 Matt: lot of similarities between combobox and autocomplete 17:40:53 Matt: do we need two patterns? 17:41:33 MichielBijl: what separates them? 17:41:43 Matt: that's the thing 17:42:14 jamesn: combobox has a limited things you can choose from, autocomplete has a possible infinite set 17:42:42 jamesn: with autocomplete, you filter on what you've typed 17:43:13 jamesn: combobox shows you everything (close to what a