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15:12:34 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
15:12:34 <trackbot> Date: 19 August 2015
15:13:24 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Aug/0007.html
15:13:33 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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15:38:07 <Steven_> Present: Steven, Nick, Philip
15:43:35 <Steven_> [Waiting for last attendee to join]
15:44:58 <Steven_> Philip: [mentions three ongoing commercial projects with XForms, with a fourth on the way]
15:45:09 <Steven_> Steven: Can I mention this publically?
15:45:22 <Steven_> Philip: Not at the moment.
15:48:15 <Steven_> Present+Erik
15:48:30 <Steven_> Topic: Call times
15:48:30 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Aug/0006.html
15:48:57 <Steven_> Erik: Unfortunately I have to drop my son at school at the time of the call.
15:49:42 <Steven_> Steven: How does a later call work for you others?
15:49:58 <Steven_> Philip: I'm usually communting in order to get to another call
15:50:06 <Steven_> Nick: Difficult for me.
15:50:31 <Steven_> Erik: I can try  to do it earlier
15:50:56 <Steven_> ... 6 to 7 my time, which is 15-16 European time
15:52:34 <Steven_> Steven: Let's try next week then, 2 hours earlier than normal, to see if it works. I will contact Alain
15:52:44 <Steven_> Topic: Editing
15:52:44 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jul/0005.html
15:53:02 <Steven_> Steven: I plan to start editing again, none so far though.
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15:53:15 <Steven_> Erik: I have edits to do as well.
15:53:43 <Steven_> Topic: XML Activity
15:53:43 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jul/0006.html
15:53:43 <Steven_> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/xml2015/results
15:54:01 <Steven_> Steven: The XML Activity did get rechartered, without any fanfare
15:54:13 <Steven_> ... we didn't get rechartered with it yet.
15:54:32 <Steven_> ... I'm awaiting news from Liam
15:57:46 <Steven_> Topic: public-xformsusers
15:57:46 <Steven_> [No link]
15:58:03 <Steven_> Steven: This is just a reminder that I have to contact Mark Seaborne.
15:58:17 <Steven_> Topic: Comments on XForms 2
15:58:17 <Steven_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Aug/0000
16:00:37 <Steven_> Steven: I agree with modifying the HTML wording. I think we can point to people combining XForms and SVG.
16:00:50 <Steven_> Nick: It just works in several implementations.
16:01:41 <Steven_> ... we do it in our iPhone implementation
16:01:51 <Steven_> Steven: Alain uses it as well
16:02:13 <Steven_> Steven: We need to keep DOMActivate for compatibility at least.
16:03:16 <Steven_> Nick: How would that work
16:03:34 <Steven_> Steven: I don't think it would be a problem. It's easy to convert between the two
16:04:53 <Steven_> Steven: HTML5 compatibility - I don't think he understands properly.
16:05:03 <Steven_> ... I think he is wrong
16:05:38 <Steven_> Steven: Point 4
16:05:50 <Steven_> Erik: I agree with the intent, but not with what he says
16:06:01 <Steven_> ... clearly we have XForms running in the browser.
16:06:30 <Steven_> ... we don't need to emphasise that this is for dedicated browsers. There are three general ways of going about it.
16:06:43 <Steven_> Steven: 5) Normative language
16:07:06 <Steven_> ... I think we should says "tthanks for the input, we will look at it". Alwatys happy to have suggestions.
16:07:40 <Steven_> Steven: 6) Format
16:07:50 <Steven_> Erik: This is what we were doing years ago.
16:08:36 <Steven_> ... It is an implementation approach
16:08:55 <Steven_> Steven: This is already happening in some senses. Eg SMIL
16:09:15 <Steven_> Philip: How?
16:09:21 <Steven_> Steven: SMIL State uses XForms
16:09:42 <Steven_> Philip: I'd missed that; sounds interesting.
16:10:10 <Steven_> TopiC: AOB
16:10:21 <Steven_> Steven: Time's running out; adjourn?
16:10:24 <Steven_> [Agreement]
16:10:45 <Steven_> Philip: Regrets for next week
16:11:03 <Steven_> [ADJOURN]
16:11:09 <Steven_> rrsagent, make minutes
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