IRC log of coga on 2015-08-17
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- 15:17:48 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-irc
- 15:18:12 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
- 15:18:12 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
- 15:19:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets:Jamie Knight , mary jo
- 15:21:26 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda: this
- 15:21:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ review of agenda, new items, update about github
- 15:21:30 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ review of actions
- 15:21:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Next FTF
- 15:21:33 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ user research comments.
- 15:21:34 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ comments from Judy, citations , glossary and our main page
- 15:21:36 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ techniques
- 15:21:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ new issue papers, review of new papers and comments
- 15:21:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ be done
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- 15:54:13 [JohnRochford]
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- 15:56:56 [JohnRochford]
- Called Zakim bridge X 3. No connection, no ringing, nothing.
- 16:00:26 [JohnRochford]
- Are we having a call today?
- 16:00:41 [ayelet_seeman]
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- 16:01:09 [Tony_Doran]
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- 16:01:53 [JohnRochford]
- Ayelet & Tony: Are you on the call?
- 16:03:22 [Mike_Pluke]
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- 16:03:42 [JohnRochford]
- Mike! Can you see this message?
- 16:04:02 [Tony_Doran]
- Trying - are we using Zakim again or ??
- 16:04:10 [Mike_Pluke]
- Yes - can't find the link for the webex
- 16:04:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- anyone joining us on webex
- 16:04:18 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ahh
- 16:04:29 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa, see my previous messages. I can't get on Webex.
- 16:04:30 [Lisa_Seeman]
- my error
- 16:04:34 [ayelet_seeman]
- Ihttps://mit.webex.com/mw0401lsp13/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=mit&service=1&main_url=%2Fmc0901lsp13%2Fmeetingcenter%2Fdefault.do%3Fsiteurl%3Dmit%26main_url%3D%252Fmc0901lsp13%252Fmeetingcenter%252Fmeetingend%252Flandingpage.do%253Fsiteurl%253Dmit%2526ishost%253Dfalse%2526NM%253Dayelet_seeman%2526AD%253Dayelet.projects1%2540gmail.com%2526STD%253D1&rnd=1809151839
- 16:04:35 [Lisa_Seeman]
- i am very fuzzy today
- 16:04:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- (was sick yesterday
- 16:04:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- webex
- 16:05:16 [Susann_Keohane]
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- 16:05:47 [JohnRochford]
- Ayelet, that URL brought me to a blank Webex page.
- 16:06:08 [Mike_Pluke]
- Me too
- 16:06:09 [ayelet_seeman]
- https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mb10f72a1b8d5c8972343dc644e3c930c
- 16:06:27 [Tony_Doran]
- On callnow :)
- 16:06:33 [ayelet_seeman]
- this is the right link, sorry
- 16:07:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: ayelet_seeman
- 16:07:46 [JohnRochford]
- Installing WebEx now, though I don't know why.
- 16:08:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- next item
- 16:08:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
- 16:09:26 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: we are late with the schedule - we are overdue with the gap analysis and road map
- 16:09:32 [janina]
- present+ janina
- 16:09:40 [JohnRochford]
- I am now connected to call via WebEx. Thank you, Ayelet.
- 16:09:53 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: however we don't want to give in something half baked
- 16:11:07 [ayelet_seeman]
- JR: did the work to revise the security issue paper. unsure about how to add it to the gap analysis.
- 16:11:26 [Mike_Pluke]
- Can't hear anything unfortunately - initially I was on system level audio mute - but now I've unmuted still can't hear anything exceptt the Webex audio test.
- 16:12:00 [Mike_Pluke]
- At last I can hear!!!
- 16:12:39 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: identify what are the gaps between what needs to exist in order to support accessibility (or in this case the security) for COGA users, and what exists now
- 16:13:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:13:56 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... you also want to check under what category it should go
- 16:14:12 [ayelet_seeman]
- * you're welcome
- 16:14:22 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
- 16:15:49 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: feel free to ping me when looking for links, etc.
- 16:17:23 [ayelet_seeman]
- MP: reviewed the personalisation issue paper. felt it was slightly scattered.
- 16:20:34 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... suggests putting all the introductory parts in one introduction, which should also include some content from the ineroperability issue paper.
- 16:20:48 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:23:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:23:32 [neilmilliken]
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- 16:23:52 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: which name is preferred - 'in page semantics', 'aria for coga', or 'aria proposal'?
- 16:24:17 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... "or 'aria for personalisation'
- 16:25:53 [ayelet_seeman]
- JS: unsure the coga aria personalisation fully covers the personalisation for different user groups
- 16:26:14 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: more general than just coga users
- 16:27:16 [ayelet_seeman]
- JS: calling it "coga aria proposal" doesn't open us to criticism
- 16:27:21 [MichaelC]
- q+
- 16:29:16 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: it is about specifying the functions of the page, which enable personalisation, not techniques specific to COGA
- 16:30:32 [Mike_Pluke]
- q+
- 16:31:13 [MichaelC]
- ack me
- 16:31:23 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ack mi
- 16:31:48 [MichaelC]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/indie-ui-context/
- 16:32:49 [ayelet_seeman]
- MC: could the difference be defined as one addressing the user agent and user, the other the web author or application?
- 16:33:55 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://github.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation
- 16:35:22 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: this s off W3C space, we want to show that the aria proposal enables personalisation
- 16:37:07 [ayelet_seeman]
- MC: is this something we want to move in to w3c space?
- 16:37:17 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: we'll discuss it off line
- 16:39:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: liddy to do an issue paper on meta data support
- 16:39:42 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-129 - Do an issue paper on meta data support [on Liddy Nevile - due 2015-08-24].
- 16:40:16 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: had a conversation with Liddie. she will write an issue paper about metadata support for coga. it could take off and could not. We want to include it in the road map ans see if it takes off. issues include ontological support of what the different accommodations, and different ways for metadata to be floating around.
- 16:41:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: lisa to ensure time is on a call soon
- 16:41:14 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-130 - Ensure time is on a call soon [on Lisa Seeman - due 2015-08-24].
- 16:41:30 [ayelet_seeman]
- SK: doesn't currently have action items
- 16:46:20 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: the review should be a question of does it fully address the issue. next we want to think of the techniques document and gap analysis, and see if they support/include the issues in the issue paper.
- 16:48:19 [janina]
- +1 to Lisa
- 16:49:19 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ok
- 16:49:35 [janina]
- ok!
- 16:50:36 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... beyond missing techniques for WCAG, the support missing could go in the gap analysis. what we didn't yet find a way to support/address should also go there
- 16:51:06 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
- 16:51:40 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... Did anyone manage to review the techniques page since we edited it?
- 16:53:20 [ayelet_seeman]
- JS: suggests looking at the wider context of the work done in the W3C to help with some of the coga concerns, such as the web annotations
- 16:53:29 [MichaelC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/annotation/ Web Annotations WG
- 16:54:01 [MichaelC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ Web Annotation Data Model
- 16:55:19 [Lisa_Seeman]
- thanks
- 16:55:42 [ayelet_seeman]
- LS: will be relevant for security.also had an idea with Neil of having a matrix of how to treat interruptions, on the OS level - such as letting some apps interrupt more than others, family members, urgency according to user, etc.
- 16:55:57 [ayelet_seeman]
- ... any ideas for something that could support it?
- 16:58:27 [ayelet_seeman]
- NM: currently has to manually set that he is busy, resulting in constantly being distracted
- 17:01:55 [ayelet_seeman]
- present+ Lisa Seeman, Michael Cooper, Richard Schwerdtfeger, John Rochford, Mike Pluke, Susann Keohane, Tony Doran, Neil Milliken, Ayelet Seeman
- 17:02:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ayelet can you do the minets?
- 17:02:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ahh... thanks
- 17:02:21 [ayelet_seeman]
- rrsagent, create minutes
- 17:02:21 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-minutes.html ayelet_seeman
- 17:02:37 [ayelet_seeman]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 17:08:03 [Lisa_Seeman]
- by zakim
- 17:08:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim by
- 17:08:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, please part
- 17:08:28 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #coga
- 17:08:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, please part
- 17:08:41 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-actions.rdf :
- 17:08:41 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: liddy to do an issue paper on meta data support [1]
- 17:08:41 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-irc#T16-39-42
- 17:08:41 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: lisa to ensure time is on a call soon [2]
- 17:08:41 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-irc#T16-41-14