12:55:56 RRSAgent has joined #svg-a11y 12:55:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/19-svg-a11y-irc 12:55:58 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:55:58 Zakim has joined #svg-a11y 12:56:00 Zakim, this will be WAI_PF 12:56:00 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 12:56:00 chair: Rich 12:56:01 Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference 12:56:01 Date: 19 June 2015 12:56:03 chair: Fred 12:56:17 Meeting: SVG Accessibility Task Force 12:57:08 RRSAgent, make log public 12:58:15 LJWatson has joined #svg-a11y 13:01:55 fesch has joined #svg-a11y 13:06:34 https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/access.html 13:10:32 https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2f65b5e71b964e48bd1274721ab964e6 13:11:11 Supports the ‘a’ element, enablign authors to supply the link purpose both from its content. 13:12:10 zakim, who's here? 13:12:10 sorry, fesch, I don't know what conference this is 13:12:12 On IRC I see fesch, LJWatson, Zakim, RRSAgent, richardschwerdtfeger, Tav, chaals, shepazu, MichaelC, nikos, trackbot 13:12:33 present+ Rich 13:12:38 Present+ chaals 13:12:48 present+ Fred 13:13:07 Present+ Jason 13:13:48 https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/access.html 13:15:01 scribenick: Rich 13:15:47 q+ 13:15:48 Topic: Actions 13:15:54 q? 13:16:32 action-1589? 13:16:32 action-1589 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Update the accessibility appendix in the main svg specs, to link back to the relevant content -- due 2015-02-27 -- OPEN 13:16:32 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1589 13:16:37 Topic: Action 1589 13:16:37 jasonjgw has joined #svg-a11y 13:16:47 close action-1589 13:16:47 Closed action-1589. 13:17:10 action-1600 13:17:10 action-1600 -- Léonie Watson to Get with doug to build a starting navigation strategy for charts -- due 2015-03-27 -- OPEN 13:17:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1600 13:17:31 fred: Start doing a navigation strategy for charts 13:17:35 action-1600 due in 3 weeks 13:17:35 Set action-1600 Get with doug to build a starting navigation strategy for charts due date to 2015-07-10. 13:18:10 action-1602? 13:18:10 action-1602 -- Jason White to Find some stem graphics to consider as use cases -- due 2015-03-27 -- OPEN 13:18:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1602 13:18:29 assign action-1602 to chaals 13:18:38 action-1602 on chaals 13:18:49 Jason: I have put together a preliminary document and sent it to Charles who will put it up on a wiki 13:19:16 action-1603? 13:19:16 action-1603 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Work with jasonw, markkuh and the universe to discover how people do interaction… -- due 2015-07-17 -- OPEN 13:19:16 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1603 13:20:32 Topic: New Documents 13:21:09 Rich: Please look at the revised SVG accessibility appendix and send me comments: https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/access.html 13:21:28 http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html 13:21:38 AmeliaBR has joined #svg-a11y 13:21:52 http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html 13:22:06 fred: Let’s start talking about roles 13:22:31 fred: This one area that is talking about SVG in the third person 13:22:39 s/This/There/ 13:22:59 amelia: We should edit the co-evolution of WAI-ARIA and host languages 13:24:18 Action: Rich update preliminaries in the SVG spec to better focus on SVG vs. legacy HTML 13:24:19 Created ACTION-1659 - Update preliminaries in the svg spec to better focus on svg vs. legacy html [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2015-06-26]. 13:26:31 fred: Let’s look at section 4.1 where there are 2 new graphics roles g-icon and g-symbol 13:28:41 Amelia: I think the intro needs to more clearly emphasize the action 13:29:51 q+ 13:29:58 Amelia: We don’t want to encourage people to support interactivity where it needs to be interactive 13:30:14 Amelia: I will update the example 13:30:31 present+ LJWatson 13:30:48 Jason: I suggest we make it look like the ARIA Spec. in terms of its position in the taxonmy 13:32:12 Amelia: we need to require the name 13:32:31 q- 13:33:19 Fred: Let’s discuss symbol 13:33:24 Link to repo: https://github.com/w3c/aria 13:33:35 Link to rawgit: http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html 13:34:04 Amelia: I will play around with the definition of symbol 13:34:25 Amelia: The symbol element will never be in the accessibility tree 13:34:41 Amelia: we need to apply symbol to 13:35:09 Amelia: you have one of these text icon on an element witthin a group. … 13:35:30 Fred: were we coing to ask for something linked from a symbol? 13:35:56 Amelia: I am going to spend to day working on this. We can go over edits to the mapping spec. next week 13:36:12 Fred: Were there roles that we missed and agreed to put in 13:36:28 Amelia: there is the figure role and the structured graphical component 13:36:38 Fred: That mean it is like a group or something? 13:36:47 Fred: Any other comments on the document so far. 13:37:13 Amelia: Is everyone ok for me puttng in fallback role information? 13:37:27 q? 13:37:36 Rich: Yes if is informative notes 13:38:33 Topic: Taxonomy 13:38:45 Fred: We have some pretty aggressive schedules. 13:40:46 Doug: The SVG working group is going to have another face to face in Paris in the fall. 13:41:10 Doug: Looking to CR version of SVG in Q!16 13:43:15 Rich: I would like to see the chart roles in SVG2 13:45:21 Rich: Would like to also see roles needed fo native host language semantics as well as needed states and properties to synch with HTML as well 13:45:56 Rich: There is an aria-roledescription going into ARIA 1.1 13:46:04 Rich: Trying to get ARIA 1.1 locked down too 13:46:46 Amelia: let’s talk about the graphical group role and what to call it 13:47:12 Doug: I would like to see g-group 13:47:27 Fred: is there a definition for that on the wiki? 13:47:52 https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_roles_for_graphics#Structured_Graphical_Component 13:48:32 Amelia: Graphica components can be nested. These should be the default roles in SVG. 13:49:13 Amelia: If you put a title on this group it maps to a new role 13:49:37 s/default roles/default role for