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14:46:54 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XForms
14:46:54 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:46:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:46:55 <trackbot> Date: 17 June 2015
14:47:26 <Steven> zakim, room for 5 at 15:00z?
14:47:28 <Zakim> ok, Steven; conference Team_(forms)15:00Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) at 15:00z for 60 minutes until 1600Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked
14:47:46 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Code is CONF1
14:49:42 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jun/0007.html
14:49:58 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Code is CONF1, Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jun/0007
14:50:05 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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15:00:54 <Zakim> Team_(forms)15:00Z has now started
15:01:01 <Zakim> +ebruchez
15:01:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:01:40 <alain> Zakim, I am [IPcaller]
15:01:40 <Zakim> ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
15:02:11 <Zakim> +??P5
15:02:16 <Steven> zakim, I am ?
15:02:16 <Zakim> +Steven; got it
15:03:18 <Steven> Topic: Summer period (holidays etc).
15:03:18 <Steven> [No link]
15:03:58 <Steven> Steven: Summer period is closing in. So we'll need to plan when we have calls and not. I will be away from the 14th July, for three weeks.
15:04:11 <Steven> Topic: Access to wiki
15:04:11 <Steven> [No link]
15:04:22 <Steven> Steven: Still no reply. I have asked again.
15:04:37 <Steven> ... I see that Liam is still listening to this channel. Hello Liam!
15:05:32 <Steven> ... we could move to github, though I'd rather not at this late stage...
15:06:05 <Steven> Erik: What is the status of the rechartering; was it tied to any other activity?
15:06:28 <Steven> Steven: I believe it is tied to the rechartering (if that is the right word) of the XML activity.
15:06:35 <Steven> \... because we would be moving there.
15:07:01 <Steven> ... having agreed the timetable with Liam, we have heard nothing since.
15:08:00 <Steven> ... Liam did say that he would organise a new phone bridge for us on the new system replacing Zakim.
15:08:12 <Steven> Topic: Multi-device examples
15:08:12 <Steven> [No link]
15:08:43 <Steven> Steven: I'm talking aboutn XForms at a Device Independence workshop next week, so if anyone has examples, I'd love to know about them.
15:09:04 <Steven> s/aboutn/about
15:09:20 <Steven> Topic: CMS Experts
15:09:58 <Steven> Steven: I'm talking to a group of European CMS Experts next week about XForms.
15:10:09 <Steven> Topic: XML London debrief
15:10:09 <Steven> [No link]
15:11:00 <Steven> http://xmllondon.com/2015/xmllondon-2015-proceedings.pdf
15:11:37 <Steven> Steven: There was one particularly interesting paper for us, about defining extensions to XPath
15:12:06 <Steven> ... he had tested it with lots of different XPath based languages, including XForms
15:12:40 <Steven> Implementation of Portable EXPath Extension
15:12:40 <Steven> Functions
15:12:40 <Steven> Adam Retter
15:12:52 <Steven> Steven: Worth looking at.
15:13:27 <Steven> Steven: I talked to Mark Seaborne
15:13:50 <Steven> ... (nominally the chair of the xformsusers CG)
15:14:11 <Steven> ... he and I are planning a weekly call to get more activity on the group.
15:14:32 <Steven> ... His paln for a first new post is a summary of implementations.
15:14:38 <Steven> s/paln/plan/
15:14:48 <Steven> Topic: XML Amsterdam
15:14:48 <Steven> [No link]
15:15:42 <Steven> Steven: I talked to one of the organisers. Hopefully there will be an XML Amsterdam late this year.
15:16:01 <Steven> Topic: min/max/avg
15:16:01 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jun/0002.html
15:17:11 <Steven> Erik: Was one of my action items to deal with interoperability beweet XForms 1.1 and 2.0; so there is a backwards compatibility mode. I added the text to the three functions.
15:17:23 <Steven> s/beweet/between/
15:17:57 <Steven> Erik: I still have a series of action items
15:18:16 <Steven> ... I sent a summary of my other action items.
15:18:32 <Steven> Steven: You have the honour of being the only one who can still edit the spec...
15:19:04 <Steven> Erik: Are we allowed to do a spec on github, and what would the format be? Anyone else doing this?
15:19:43 <Steven> Steven: I believe there are other WGs using github, I don';t know which. It was talked about at the AC meeting in Paris.
15:19:44 <Steven> s/;//
15:20:23 <Steven> Steven: I think they are using HTML/XHTML, and just committing to github.
15:22:39 <Steven> ... I wouldn;t want to use github unless it was clear that we weren't going to get access to the wiki.
15:23:07 <Steven> s/;/'/
15:23:19 <Steven> Erik: It seems like it would be a ten-minute thing.
15:24:09 <Steven> Steven: True, but it may be so automated and therefore hard to deshackle
15:26:43 <Steven> Topic: AOB
15:26:49 <Steven> Erik: Regrets for next week.
15:27:09 <Steven> Steven: Call in two week's time.
15:27:09 <Zakim> -ebruchez
15:27:10 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:27:11 <Zakim> -Steven
15:27:12 <Zakim> Team_(forms)15:00Z has ended
15:27:12 <Zakim> Attendees were ebruchez, [IPcaller], Steven
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15:27:22 <Steven> Present+Alain
15:27:27 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:27:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/17-forms-minutes.html Steven
15:28:14 <Steven> s/\\//
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15:29:18 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:29:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/17-forms-minutes.html Steven
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15:30:36 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:30:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/17-forms-minutes.html Steven
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18:45:52 <liam> Steven_, sorry I didn't do it in time for this week - i have scheduled a webex call, and will send you the details shortly
18:46:12 <liam> (probably not a good idea to include the meeting password on the public list)