IRC log of coga on 2015-06-15
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- 15:32:00 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc
- 15:32:23 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
- 15:32:23 [Zakim]
- ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
- 15:33:45 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: John Rochford, Steve Lee, , E.A. Draffan, susann Keohane
- 15:34:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda: this
- 15:34:18 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ review actions, and timelines
- 15:34:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ issue papers
- 15:34:21 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ techniques
- 15:34:23 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ be done
- 15:36:52 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action katie to do GPA on online payments
- 15:36:52 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'katie'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 15:38:10 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments
- 15:38:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-113 - Ruh and katie to do gpa on online payments [on Debra Ruh - due 2015-06-22].
- 15:38:53 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: steve to do GPA on personlization group
- 15:38:54 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-114 - to do gpa on personlization group [on Steve Lee - due 2015-06-22].
- 15:50:53 [Chaohai_Ding]
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- 16:04:03 [Lisa_Seeman]
- next item
- 16:04:06 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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- 16:08:07 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: Mike_Pluke
- 16:08:10 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
- 16:08:31 [Tony_Doran]
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- 16:16:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html
- 16:16:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html>
- 16:16:38 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-115 - Perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [on Jamie Knight - due 2015-06-22].
- 16:16:50 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
- 16:18:50 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions
- 16:18:50 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-116 - Perform gap analisis on distractions [on Neil Milliken - due 2015-06-22].
- 16:20:26 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:20:26 [trackbot]
- 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
- 16:22:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:22:09 [trackbot]
- 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
- 16:22:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: Mike Pluke with rich to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:22:28 [trackbot]
- 'Mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
- 16:23:40 [janina_]
- present+ janina
- 16:24:32 [ddahl]
- present+ Debbie_Dahl
- 16:25:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: Mary Jo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:25:14 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:25:43 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:25:43 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:25:55 [Lisa_Seeman]
- next item
- 16:26:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Jun/0031.html
- 16:27:04 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:27:04 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'maryjom'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:27:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:33:42 [Mike_Pluke]
- Chaohai described progress on the Symbol users with Speech, Language and Literacy Difficulties - Issue Paper
- 16:34:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:34:17 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-117 - Perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/gap_analysis [on Mary Jo Mueller - due 2015-06-22].
- 16:34:21 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:35:35 [Mike_Pluke]
- No disagreemen with two solutions proposed in the Issue Paper
- 16:35:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:37:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#content-structure-separation
- 16:37:46 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:39:32 [Mike_Pluke]
- Looking at the Gap Analysis issues for the "Proposed Solutions"
- 16:41:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis#Items_where_New_techniques_are_WCAG_2.0_required
- 16:44:21 [Mike_Pluke]
- For solution 1 (aria-concept) the relevant SC appears to be 1.3.1 Info and Relationships. The above link captures this point in the Gap Analysis document.
- 16:44:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:46:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances.x
- 16:46:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances
- 16:51:21 [Mike_Pluke]
- Discussion on the concerns about Flat Design.
- 16:56:00 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#be-predictable
- 16:56:09 [Mike_Pluke]
- NIDR discussion emphasised consistency of positioning(of buttons etc.) is important
- 16:58:52 [JamieKnight]
- http://m.bbc.co.uk
- 17:01:08 [Mike_Pluke]
- Interesting BBC finding. In search people expect a box to type in and a button. When just provide a button many people thought that search was removed.
- 17:01:39 [ddahl]
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- 17:02:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- debra rue was on the call
- 17:02:36 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 17:02:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, create minutes
- 17:02:57 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
- 17:03:40 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, please part
- 17:03:40 [Zakim]
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- 17:03:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, please part
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-actions.rdf :
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments [1]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-10
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: steve to do GPA on personlization group [2]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-53
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [3]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-16-37
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions [4]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-18-50
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [5]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-20-26
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [6]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-09
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mike Pluke with rich to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [7]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-28
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mary Jo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [8]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-14
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [9]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-43
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [10]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-27-04
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy and how it fits into with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [11]
- 17:03:49 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-34-17