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15:32:23 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:32:23 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
15:33:45 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: John Rochford, Steve Lee, , E.A. Draffan, susann Keohane
15:34:17 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:34:18 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review actions, and timelines
15:34:20 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  issue papers
15:34:21 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  techniques
15:34:23 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
15:36:52 <Lisa_Seeman> action katie to do GPA on online payments
15:36:52 <trackbot> Error finding 'katie'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
15:38:10 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments
15:38:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Ruh and katie to do gpa on online payments [on Debra Ruh - due 2015-06-22].
15:38:53 <Lisa_Seeman> action: steve  to do GPA on personlization group
15:38:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-114 -  to do gpa on personlization group [on Steve Lee - due 2015-06-22].
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16:04:03 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:04:06 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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16:08:07 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Mike_Pluke
16:08:10 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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16:16:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html
16:16:37 <Lisa_Seeman> action: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html>
16:16:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [on Jamie Knight - due 2015-06-22].
16:16:50 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
16:18:50 <Lisa_Seeman> action: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions
16:18:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Perform gap analisis on distractions [on Neil Milliken - due 2015-06-22].
16:20:26 <Lisa_Seeman> action: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:20:26 <trackbot> 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:22:09 <Lisa_Seeman> action: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:22:09 <trackbot> 'mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:22:28 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Mike Pluke with rich  to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:22:28 <trackbot> 'Mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mpluke, mikes).
16:23:40 <janina_> present+ janina
16:24:32 <ddahl> present+ Debbie_Dahl
16:25:14 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Mary Jo   to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:25:14 <trackbot> Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:25:43 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:25:43 <trackbot> Error finding 'Mary'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:25:55 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:26:27 <Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Jun/0031.html
16:27:04 <Lisa_Seeman> action: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:27:04 <trackbot> Error finding 'maryjom'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:27:31 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:33:42 <Mike_Pluke> Chaohai described progress on the Symbol users with Speech, Language and Literacy Difficulties - Issue Paper
16:34:17 <Lisa_Seeman> action: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:34:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-117 - Perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/gap_analysis [on Mary Jo Mueller - due 2015-06-22].
16:34:21 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:35:35 <Mike_Pluke> No disagreemen with two solutions proposed in the Issue Paper
16:35:44 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:37:42 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#content-structure-separation
16:37:46 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:39:32 <Mike_Pluke> Looking at the Gap Analysis issues for the "Proposed Solutions"
16:41:11 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis#Items_where_New_techniques_are_WCAG_2.0_required
16:44:21 <Mike_Pluke> For solution 1 (aria-concept) the relevant SC appears to be 1.3.1 Info and Relationships. The above link captures this point in the Gap Analysis document.
16:44:39 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:46:11 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances.x
16:46:29 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#use-clear-visual-affordances
16:51:21 <Mike_Pluke> Discussion on the concerns about Flat Design.
16:56:00 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html#be-predictable
16:56:09 <Mike_Pluke> NIDR discussion emphasised consistency of positioning(of buttons etc.) is important
16:58:52 <JamieKnight> http://m.bbc.co.uk
17:01:08 <Mike_Pluke> Interesting BBC finding. In search people expect a box to type in and a button. When just provide a button many people thought that search was removed.
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17:02:01 <Lisa_Seeman> debra rue was on the call
17:02:36 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:02:57 <Lisa_Seeman>  rrsagent, create minutes
17:02:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:03:40 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
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17:03:49 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-actions.rdf :
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Debra Ruh and katie to do GPA on online payments [1]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-10
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: steve  to do GPA on personlization group [2]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T15-38-53
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jamie to perform gap analisis on <https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/flat-design.html> [3]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-16-37
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: neil to perform gap analisis on distractions [4]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-18-50
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mike to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [5]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-20-26
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mike P to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [6]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-09
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mike Pluke with rich  to perform gap analisis on Security and Privacy Technologies<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html> and Online Safety<https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/safety.html> and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [7]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-22-28
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mary Jo   to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [8]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-14
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mary Jo Mueller to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [9]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-25-43
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: maryjom to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [10]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-27-04
17:03:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: maryjo to perform gap analisis on graded help when we have a copy  and how it fits into  with https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html in https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis [11]
17:03:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-coga-irc#T16-34-17