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14:56:23 RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:56:25 Zakim, this will be 2119
14:56:26 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:56:26 Date: 11 June 2015
14:56:27 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 56 minutes ago
14:57:02 agenda?
14:57:05 Chair: Janina
14:57:05 agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
14:57:08 agenda+ Agenda Edits & Additions
14:57:11 agenda+ Bug Triage -- Leonie
14:57:13 agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul
14:57:16 agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
14:57:18 agenda+ Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia
14:57:21 agenda+ Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al
14:57:23 agenda+ TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
14:57:26 agenda+ Other Business
14:57:28 agenda+ be done
14:57:40 agenda?
14:57:53 zakim, who's here?
14:57:53 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has not yet started, janina
14:57:55 On IRC I see RRSAgent, LJWatson, ShaneM, newtron, IanPouncey2, liam, cabanier, janina, joanie, trackbot
14:58:17 zakim, this will be WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)
14:58:17 ok, janina; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 58 minutes ago
14:58:17 LJWatson has joined #html-a11y
14:58:46 present+ Janina
14:58:51 chair: Janina
15:00:47 present+ ShaneM
15:01:06 zakim, next item
15:01:06 agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:01:50 Hello, I seem to be alone on the Webex bridge
15:02:02 I am on the bridge but muted
15:02:08 OK, thanks!
15:02:18 So, two of us so far
15:03:37 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
15:06:10 chaals has joined #html-a11y
15:06:16 Judy has joined #html-a11y
15:06:24 present+ Judy
15:06:33 Regrets+ chaals
15:06:58 zakim, who's here?
15:07:00 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has not yet started, Judy
15:07:00 On IRC I see Judy, chaals, Zakim, RRSAgent, ShaneM, newtron, IanPouncey2, liam, cabanier, janina, joanie, trackbot
15:07:16 I think I lost audio, can you hear me?
15:07:32 OK, I have packet loss audio1
15:07:46 Sometimes, the best solution for that is to redial. Doing so now!
15:08:26 cyns has joined #html-a11y
15:08:47 Having trouble getting in with audio!
15:08:56 me too
15:09:02 webex
15:09:10 it says the meeting hasn't started?
15:09:43 never a dull moment
15:10:01 You have to be on the Webex client to be recognized by it. I dial Boston direct
15:10:12 Now it's not answering
15:10:20 JB notes Webex problems holding up start of call.
15:10:23 Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring ...
15:10:25 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started
15:10:33 +Cynthia_Shelly
15:10:37 Zakim is working.
15:10:44 Could people please note in IRC if they are *on* the call via WebEx
15:10:58 Finally answered, with major packet loss audio!
15:11:08 My pings are rock solid
15:11:15 I think my end is fine
15:11:15 +Judy
15:11:30 Trying again
15:12:04 JB: asks if anyone is successfully on the webex line
15:12:11 I'm not in yet. Getting ring, ring
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15:12:17 I am on webex
15:12:18 ...otherwise please call Zakim line
15:12:33 If not Webex this time, will go Zakim
15:12:49 ...hi folks, the rest of us cannot join webex -- could those of you on webex please join Zakim today instead
15:13:00 Webex still ringing, not yet answered ...
15:13:14 LJWatson has joined #html-a11y
15:13:21 +??P0
15:13:28 I am speaking on webex
15:13:37 low tech crap
15:13:53 skype for business, anyone?
15:13:58 +Joanmarie_Diggs
15:14:02 I have P0, but no audio! Zakim also bad
15:14:09 +Plh
15:14:09 -??P0
15:14:12 PLEASE JOIN VIA ZAKIM TODAY
15:14:23 +??P0
15:15:45 +[IPcaller]
15:16:07 Present on Zakim: Cynthia, Philippe, Janina, Joanie, Leonie, no Shane yet
15:16:17 Judy is here on Zakim
15:16:39 go on without me. I have some issues on this end. I will try to connect asap
15:17:12 scribe: Philippe
15:17:17 agenda?
15:17:31 zakim, close agendum 1
15:17:31 agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:17:34 I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:17:34 2. Agenda Edits & Additions [from janina]
15:17:34 zakim, move to next agendum
15:17:35 agendum 2. "Agenda Edits & Additions" taken up [from janina]
15:17:55 Cynthia: I have one
15:18:05 agenda+ teleconference plans and back up plans
15:18:10 Judy: teleconf plan and backup plan
15:18:30 IanPouncey has joined #html-a11y
15:18:31 agenda+ changes happening/under discussion in html and webapps https://github.com/w3c/charter-
15:18:39 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #html-a11y
15:18:53 plh has changed the topic to: We're using Zakim [WebEX no worky]
15:18:57 +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:19:15 url got cut off https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14#issuecomment-108008183
15:19:49 zakim, take up agendum 4
15:19:49 agendum 4. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul" taken up [from janina]
15:20:09 -[IPcaller]
15:20:09 Janina: so, what's the status here?
15:20:51 Rich: 2 test cases that haven't been ran
15:20:57 +[IPcaller]
15:21:36 Plh: any writeup of what those 2 tests are supposed to do?
15:22:09 Rich: I'll need to find them
15:22:18 Plh: I'm willing to write those tests and run them
15:22:54 Rich: I'll give you the info
15:23:12 Plh: I'd like to move to PR by end of July
15:24:32 Rich: nothing comes to mind
15:24:39 s/nothing/nothing else/
15:24:54 Topic: WebEx
15:25:11 zakim, take up agendum 11
15:25:11 agendum 11. "teleconference plans and back up plans" taken up [from Judy]
15:25:22 Judy: [unminuted troubleshooting]
15:25:23 -[IPcaller]
15:25:28 chaals has joined #html-a11y
15:25:49 Judy: we're goint to continue the migration and we'll make it clear what the fallback will be
15:25:59 +??P6
15:26:05 Judy: apologizes for the troubles in the meantime
15:26:57 zakim, close agendum 11
15:26:57 agendum 11, teleconference plans and back up plans, closed
15:26:58 I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:26:58 2. Agenda Edits & Additions [from janina]
15:26:58 zakim, move to next agendum
15:26:59 agendum 2. "Agenda Edits & Additions" taken up [from janina]
15:27:05 zakim, close agendum 2
15:27:05 agendum 2, Agenda Edits & Additions, closed
15:27:06 I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:27:06 3. Bug Triage -- Leonie [from janina]
15:27:08 zakim, move to next agendum
15:27:08 agendum 3. "Bug Triage -- Leonie" taken up [from janina]
15:27:17 Leonie: we have a meeting tomorrow
15:27:27 ... did have a chance to draft the agenda
15:27:31 ... steve made progress
15:27:32 q+
15:27:46 ... he reassigned or closed around 60 bugs
15:27:54 ... one got reopened by John
15:28:00 .. so tomorrow for next step
15:28:16 ... we're lookinf for volunteers
15:29:41 http://github.adrianba.net/webstandards/HTML5-bugs.htm
15:29:52 http://github.adrianba.net/webstandards/HTML5-bugs.htm
15:30:13 -??P6
15:30:17 plh: [see also Adrian's input as well]
15:30:43 +??P6
15:31:42 Leonie: meeting is at 10am ET tomorrow
15:32:14 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Jun/0011.html
15:32:21 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Jun/0027.html
15:32:37 Leonie: which irc channel?
15:33:44 Plh: just use #html-a11y
15:34:07 Janina: I'll follow up
15:34:11 +ShaneM
15:34:29 zakim, move to next agendum
15:34:29 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, plh
15:34:32 q?
15:34:34 ack plh
15:34:38 zakim, move to next agendum
15:34:38 agendum 4. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul" taken up [from janina]
15:34:46 zakim, close agendum 4
15:34:46 agendum 4, Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, closed
15:34:47 zakim, move to next agendum
15:34:48 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:34:48 5. Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam [from janina]
15:34:48 agendum 5. "Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam" taken up [from janina]
15:35:08 -??P6
15:35:14 Janina: looking for edits draft for what we really want the spec to say
15:35:31 +??P6
15:36:03 Shane: I don't know the status, sorry
15:36:14 ... Liam indicated that he is making edits
15:36:44 ... I have a pile of edits
15:36:48 ... but nothing substantial
15:36:54 zakim, move to next agendum
15:36:54 agendum 6. "Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia" taken up [from janina]
15:37:11 Janina: Charles started a stub
15:37:28 http://chaals.github.io/html-transcript/html-transcript-src.html
15:37:56 action-323?
15:37:56 action-323 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Draft a transcript extension specification -- due 2015-06-04 -- CLOSED
15:37:56 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/323
15:38:22 shelf next to washer?
15:38:27 sorry - in a meeting
15:38:35 close action-323
15:38:35 Closed action-323.
15:39:01 Janina: anything else?
15:39:09 Plh: what's the next step?
15:39:15 Janina: we need to give input
15:39:42 s/shelf next to washer?//
15:39:48 s/sorry - in a meeting//
15:39:55 ... we can write the doc in terms of use cases/requirements but not the technical solution. we'd like the media task force to decide
15:39:56 -??P6
15:40:05 ... we don't mind which technical solutions
15:40:15 +[IPcaller]
15:41:01 Janina: maybe we should take the media task force that can start looking at after next week
15:41:08 s/take/tell/
15:41:27 agenda+ HTML split
15:41:54 Janina: so a little too soon fo0r them to look at it, but let's not wait to finish it before they start looking
15:41:58 zakim, move to next agendum
15:41:58 agendum 7. "Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al" taken up [from janina]
15:42:09 q?
15:42:25 zakim, ??p0 is Leonie
15:42:25 +Leonie; got it
15:42:37 Leonie: just had a rewrite of the spec text
15:42:58 http://bkardell.github.io/common-panel/index.src.html
15:43:16 ... to make it look better
15:43:24 ... similar to html spec formatting
15:43:34 ... needs to work on some of the respec details
15:43:46 q+
15:44:18 ack plh
15:44:25 http://bkardell.github.io/common-panel/index.src.html
15:44:36 Leonie: we're tracking issues on github
15:44:40 -[IPcaller]
15:44:56 https://github.com/bkardell/common-panel/issues
15:44:58 +[IPcaller]
15:45:30 Leonie: we just want people reading and reviewing it
15:46:01 ... we'll post it to the html wg
15:46:15 zakim, move to next agendum
15:46:15 agendum 8. "TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track" taken up [from janina]
15:46:30 agenda?
15:46:43 zakim, take up agendum 12
15:46:43 agendum 12. "changes happening/under discussion in html and webapps https://github.com/w3c/charter-" taken up [from cyns]
15:47:05 https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14
15:47:41 scribenick: LJWatson
15:47:54 PLH: Robin posted an issue on GH and there has been plenty of discussion.
15:48:35 ... I encourage anyone who is interested to comment on that thread.
15:48:57 JS: This is a good time to familiarise ourselves with that discussion, so we can discuss the impact on this TF as of next Thursday?
15:49:02 PLH: Yes.
15:49:24 -[IPcaller]
15:49:24 ... The goal is to get the new group/charter running by TPAC.
15:49:42 +??P6
15:49:56 agenda?
15:50:21 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Jun/0009.html
15:50:51 PLH: Robin has posted a proposed split of the HTML WG to the HTML and HTML A11y lists. Again, I encourage people to comment.
15:51:03 -ShaneM
15:51:08 -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:51:22 -Joanmarie_Diggs
15:51:28 rrsagent, generate minutes
15:51:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/11-html-a11y-minutes.html plh
15:51:37 -Leonie
15:51:38 -??P6
15:51:48 zakim, list participants
15:51:48 As of this point the attendees have been Cynthia_Shelly, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, Plh, [IPcaller], Rich_Schwerdtfeger, ShaneM, Leonie
15:51:57 rrsagent, make minutes
15:51:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/11-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
16:03:30 -Plh
16:03:32 -Judy
16:03:32 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended
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